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I just saw on local wabcnews that Weiner will have a presser around 5 PM today. (Original Post) hrmjustin Jul 2013 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #1
Uggh.... I hate the double standard vis-a-vis Dems & RETHUGS and sex scandals, but still hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2
Maybe read your own sig line? nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #3
So, I take it this is a new scandal and hence he "never learns?? (I've not been following him hlthe2b Jul 2013 #7
Why this really damages Weiner is not because it shows him to be a sleaze, but geek tragedy Jul 2013 #5
really? I thought that relapses were common with substance addictions. CTyankee Jul 2013 #11
This isn't substance addiction, it's . . . something. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #14
I meant to say with any addiction. My bad. CTyankee Jul 2013 #20
This seems less about sex than ego gratification--being told geek tragedy Jul 2013 #22
Well,plenty of men are narcessistic and seek ego gratification, but this seems excessive and CTyankee Jul 2013 #41
Just like alcoholics shouldn't tend bar, Weiner needs to find an existence geek tragedy Jul 2013 #46
Absolutely! CTyankee Jul 2013 #51
I don't know if this has any bearing on their sex life. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #54
geez, as a woman I can't feature feeling sexy about a husband engaging in this obsession... CTyankee Jul 2013 #62
As a man, I can't imagine sending my wife up at a press conference to protect geek tragedy Jul 2013 #64
Huma Abeden doesn't strike me at all like a wife who would "obey" a husband "sending" her CTyankee Jul 2013 #68
No doubt, but he was cool with her going up there on his behalf. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #69
I'm at a loss to understand this whole thing. CTyankee Jul 2013 #70
I hate it too bigwillq Jul 2013 #12
and then complain loudly about "double standards" frylock Jul 2013 #17
If you are directing that at me... I have not EVER defended Weiner... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #26
so you want to hold yourself to the same standards as republicans.. frylock Jul 2013 #33
I think they should BOTH face consequences or neither... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #40
why would i fucking care what standards conservatives hold themselves to? frylock Jul 2013 #43
Funny, most conservatives don't seem to give a damn about hypocrisy, either... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #49
i don't vote for these fuckers.. frylock Jul 2013 #53
I fail to see why you think attacking other DUers who merely express frustration with the whole mess hlthe2b Jul 2013 #55
attacking DUers? i'm opposing their position on this issue.. frylock Jul 2013 #58
I am NOT DEFENDING WEINER... I never did, I never will... YOU ARE AGAIN misattributing YOUR thoughts hlthe2b Jul 2013 #60
going back over this thread, you injected yourself into the dialogue.. frylock Jul 2013 #65
Are you unable to see that your post was in a subthread to my original comment? REALLY? hlthe2b Jul 2013 #66
so can you get to the point then? frylock Jul 2013 #67
I can't speak for other "folks". BlueStater Jul 2013 #18
not everyone DrDan Jul 2013 #56
That's true. bigwillq Jul 2013 #57
the mind boggles to as what he means by a presser, i even went online to see if its a sex thing loli phabay Jul 2013 #4
If it is reported on ABC can we disregard it? The Straight Story Jul 2013 #6
LOL no you can believe it, but will it be at 5 like they said. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #8
They are on phase one nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #9
wtf is this some sort of code. loli phabay Jul 2013 #15
it's secret reporter-speak! dionysus Jul 2013 #34
I think it is some sort of "journo" code Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #36
lol your translation is just as bad, garbage in garbage out i suppose. loli phabay Jul 2013 #38
Will Britefart be there? boston bean Jul 2013 #10
LOL that damn ghost never stops. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #13
No, Breitbart's ghost is busy getting treated for syphilis. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #19
Dead Andy is still dead. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #21
omg Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #16
the man needs help Lebam in LA Jul 2013 #23
Anthony Weiner Is Holding A Press Conference At 5 P.M. To Discuss New Lewd Photo Revelations FarCenter Jul 2013 #24
Sounds like something pintobean Jul 2013 #45
Weiner's pumped for his appearance pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #25
It's hard for folks to turn a good Weiner down snooper2 Jul 2013 #27
Is he quitting again? Renew Deal Jul 2013 #28
I doubt it but we shall find out in a few minutes. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #30
So, is he in or out? NightWatcher Jul 2013 #29
Its about another sexting and photos SummerSnow Jul 2013 #31
What can he possibly have to say? madaboutharry Jul 2013 #32
Taking his sweet time. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #35
Is "presser" a euphemism? cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #37
"Presser" means "press release." nt Nay Jul 2013 #39
Actually press conference nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #44
Yes, sorry, you are correct. nt Nay Jul 2013 #48
And strange, MSNBC was on the live feed and cut from it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #42
The local news has cameras on him so I will see when it starts. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #47
All these scandals have a pattern to them nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #50
'Scuse me Turbineguy Jul 2013 #52
Fascinating...old material leaking out now nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #59
It is what it is. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #61
Here's a link struggle4progress Jul 2013 #63
He needs to just zip it. pintobean Jul 2013 #71
he needs to shake it and put the damn thing away Whisp Jul 2013 #73
yeh, he's pressing something in his pockets. Whisp Jul 2013 #72

Response to hrmjustin (Original post)

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
7. So, I take it this is a new scandal and hence he "never learns?? (I've not been following him
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jul 2013

lately)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Why this really damages Weiner is not because it shows him to be a sleaze, but
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jul 2013

rather it shows him to be someone who just can't control his own behavior. He needs help.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. really? I thought that relapses were common with substance addictions.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jul 2013

I think it takes time...I remember how many times I relapsed when I was trying to quit smoking. I finally did, but it took a while...and once I was done, I was done. I never smoked again...it's been 32 years...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. This isn't substance addiction, it's . . . something.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jul 2013

It does make one wonder if there's a point to his running for public office besides the ego stroking. he's cybersexted more often than he's gotten legislation passed.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. I meant to say with any addiction. My bad.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jul 2013

I don't know why substance addiction is different from a sexual addiction. I'm no psychlogist, but it seems to me to make sense that an addiction would be hard to give up, no matter what kind it is.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. This seems less about sex than ego gratification--being told
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013

how awesome he is, etc. He never touched any of these women. Not sure if he even saw nudies of any of them. Rather, it's about how impressive he is to them, how in awe they are of his physique, his codpiece, his speechifying.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
41. Well,plenty of men are narcessistic and seek ego gratification, but this seems excessive and
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jul 2013

quirky. I think there is such a thing as sex addiction...or at least I've heard of it...and his "can't seem to stop" behavior is sort of like an addiction...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
46. Just like alcoholics shouldn't tend bar, Weiner needs to find an existence
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jul 2013

not oriented around chasing approval and adulation from strangers.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
51. Absolutely!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jul 2013

I think it is a tragedy when people can't enjoy a satisfying sex life with their partners. Sexual intimacy with a beloved is one of the greatest satisfactions in one's life, IMO...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
54. I don't know if this has any bearing on their sex life.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jul 2013

This seems to be about something other than sex. It's about a kid who grew up skinny with a nasal voice and a funny last name wanting to be a stud.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
64. As a man, I can't imagine sending my wife up at a press conference to protect
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jul 2013

me from the consequences of my own actions.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
68. Huma Abeden doesn't strike me at all like a wife who would "obey" a husband "sending" her
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jul 2013

anywhere. She is much more professionally erudite than he is. But I'm sure she still has trust in their love and is looking out for their child. She may regret this, however, but we can't know the future.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
69. No doubt, but he was cool with her going up there on his behalf.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jul 2013

Just unseemly. She's doing what she wants, but at the end of the day if you need your wife to get up and say she loves you, that's sad.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
70. I'm at a loss to understand this whole thing.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jul 2013

I would toss Weiner's ass out of the house, myself. I don't know how she could smile so much during the press conference and then say what she said. I'm at a loss for words at this point...

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
12. I hate it too
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jul 2013

When a repuke does it, folks here think the repuke should resign.
When a DEM does it, folks here think it's none of our business what one does in their bedroom.

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
26. If you are directing that at me... I have not EVER defended Weiner...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

But, in terms of double standards, it isn't RETHUGs that face consequences.... Can you say Vitter, Mark Sanford, Rudy Guilliani, John Ensign, Mark Souder, Newt Gingrich (for starters?)

Weiner resigned, as was the public expectation of Democrats. Likewise, so did Jim McGeevey, Gary Condit, and Eliiot Spitzer--for starters.

So, no... regardless of whether the Dems SHOULD resign or not, there are no double standards for Democrats involved in sex scandals versus Republicans, now, are there?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
33. so you want to hold yourself to the same standards as republicans..
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jul 2013

or are the democrats better? which is it?

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
40. I think they should BOTH face consequences or neither...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jul 2013

I'm personally disgusted at some of the behavior... But if we are going to expect/force Dems to resign or otherwise face some kind of consequences--whatever they may be, depending on the specific circumstances, I'd like to know why it does not bother YOU, as supposed ( ??? ) Dem/Progressive, that we don't force the RETHUGS to hold their own to the same standards.

AND, I damned well think you need to stop trying to attribute your OWN words/interpretations/conclusions to other DUers. It is highly dishonest.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
43. why would i fucking care what standards conservatives hold themselves to?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jul 2013

why would you? right is right and wrong is wrong. because some people get away with doing the wrong thing doesn't mean people shouldn't be held to account for their stupid decisions.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
53. i don't vote for these fuckers..
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jul 2013

what would you have me do? stomp my little feet here on the web and rail against their hypocrisy? or would you rather i engage in the "well they do it too" game?

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
55. I fail to see why you think attacking other DUers who merely express frustration with the whole mess
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jul 2013

with ugly and very inaccurate attribution of comments and beliefs to them is helpful... Dishonest, yes...

frylock

(34,825 posts)
58. attacking DUers? i'm opposing their position on this issue..
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:40 PM
Jul 2013

you want to scream and yell about hypocrisy, all the while SEEMING to engage in it yourself.

simple question: did Weiner, yet again, show poor judgment, and should it be overlooked because republicans don't hold their own to the same high standards that democrats ALLEGEDLY do?

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
60. I am NOT DEFENDING WEINER... I never did, I never will... YOU ARE AGAIN misattributing YOUR thoughts
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jul 2013

your assumptions to me. It is beyond dishonest. And, yes, I damned well resent it.

Absolutely indefensible behavior for a Democrat--and I'm not only talking about Weiner.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
65. going back over this thread, you injected yourself into the dialogue..
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jul 2013

I did not reply to you, and I never once mentioned you by name, or attributed any quotes to you, misrepresented or otherwise. I mentioned double standards and you came in, both barrels blazing.

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
66. Are you unable to see that your post was in a subthread to my original comment? REALLY?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jul 2013

And, yes, every comment you made to me was very disingenuous and accusatory.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
67. so can you get to the point then?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jul 2013

is it a double standard only for republicans? for the record, i'm not a registered democrat. never have been, never will be.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
18. I can't speak for other "folks".
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jul 2013

But I only care about their repulsive hypocrisy, not their actual sexual antics.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
4. the mind boggles to as what he means by a presser, i even went online to see if its a sex thing
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jul 2013

I have never heard off, gawd only knows.

Brother Buzz

(36,455 posts)
36. I think it is some sort of "journo" code
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

that loosely translates to "Mayor Bob Filner's peccadillo is bigger than Weiner's". Ace reporter informed us Filner's woes just morphed into stage two of the scandal yesterday.

I could be wrong.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
24. Anthony Weiner Is Holding A Press Conference At 5 P.M. To Discuss New Lewd Photo Revelations
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jul 2013
Nightlife site "The Dirty" posted images and conversations that allegedly came from Weiner to a 22-year-old woman under the pseudonym "Carlos Danger."

The woman said that the online relationship occurred in 2012 — about a year after Weiner's initial fall and resignation from Congress.

Weiner addressed the revelations in a statement released through his campaign. But he did not address the timeline of the chats and photos.

“I said that other texts and photos were likely to come out, and today they have," Weiner said in the statement.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-weiner-press-conference-sex-photos-chats-the-dirty-carlos-danger-2013-7

madaboutharry

(40,216 posts)
32. What can he possibly have to say?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jul 2013

I don't even see the point. If there is truth to these new allegations, then he should just issue a press release and spare us all.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
47. The local news has cameras on him so I will see when it starts.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jul 2013

Local news said he was staying in the race but I wonder if he is changing his mind.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
50. All these scandals have a pattern to them
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:28 PM
Jul 2013

When you enter multiple conferences in the same day, you are in phase two.

Me, waiting locally for phase three... when city council has resolutions, and or even arrests are done.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
73. he needs to shake it and put the damn thing away
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jul 2013

ugh!
the most unpleasant thought in the world right now is the sight of Wiener's little wiener. omg, ralph....

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