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My teabag sister said today...... (Original Post) grasswire Jul 2013 OP
It must be true. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2013 #1
Jones, Beck, Hannity, Fundie Mega-Madrasas. Dawson Leery Jul 2013 #2
Some dropout on the radio pulled it out of his big, fat ass Warpy Jul 2013 #3
well, google answered my question grasswire Jul 2013 #4
. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2013 #11
Straight out of the ass of those mentioned in post # 2 nt jaysunb Jul 2013 #5
I'm all for this Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #6
easy response: where has this happened? salin Jul 2013 #7
What gets me is that they are too stupid/bigoted to even question that kind of crud? Hoyt Jul 2013 #8
A fair number of them know such stories are bullshit Mariana Jul 2013 #13
They may have editorialized/wrote about it, but here's where they got it from SameOleDrivel Jul 2013 #9
So enforcing fair housing rules so that people can choose where they want to live Lex Jul 2013 #10
Well, to be fair Lex, Marie Marie Jul 2013 #12
Thanks for the links GiaGiovanni Jul 2013 #16
Not a problem, glad I could help SameOleDrivel Jul 2013 #17
Interesting. Thanks. (no text) Quantess Jul 2013 #19
Sorry to say this about your sister but rl6214 Jul 2013 #14
Several people here actually think DevonRex Jul 2013 #15
Where do they get this stuff?? Flashmann Jul 2013 #18

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
3. Some dropout on the radio pulled it out of his big, fat ass
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jul 2013

Local call in shows and emails based on these local call in shows where the stupid scare the equally stupid are where they get everything.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. well, google answered my question
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:00 PM
Jul 2013

From Investors Business Daily:



Diversity: Now even ZIP codes are racist, and according to this race-obsessed administration, you're racist for living in a suburban area with little public housing. And it plans to change that.

In what may be the most ambitious social-engineering project undertaken by the federal government, the administration is mapping every neighborhood in America by race. The stated purpose is to use the data to compel local officials to loosen zoning laws and build more public housing, thereby offering more poor inner-city minorities better opportunities for housing and education.

But the unstated purpose is forced racial integration. The suburbs are just too white for Obama and his race-mongering social engineers. They think they "geospatially discriminate" against minorities, never mind that more and more middle-class blacks are flocking to them on their own.

The ham-handed government project is led by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Last week it proposed new rules requiring counties and other entities receiving federal grant dollars to "affirmatively further fair housing" in the suburbs for minorities. Grantees who fail to comply will be denied federal funding.
At the same time, HUD is pressuring suburban landlords to accept Section 8 housing vouchers.


Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/072213-664703-hud-maps-suburbs-in-new-diversity-project.htm#ixzz2Zv7Q9qiG
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Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
6. I'm all for this
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jul 2013

Integrating neighborhoods changes everything. You then integrate schools, community centers, places like the YMCA to grocery stores and neighborhood playgrounds.

It's how you get people used to seeing other races all the time, especially children and over time you don't get scary fill-in-the-blanks

salin

(48,955 posts)
7. easy response: where has this happened?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jul 2013

Have to start pushing hyperbole vs. actual documented events.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
13. A fair number of them know such stories are bullshit
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jul 2013

but pass them around anyway, pretending to believe them. I have teabagger relatives who do this - they spread stories and e-mails that they know are false to all their teabagger acquaintances.

SameOleDrivel

(2 posts)
9. They may have editorialized/wrote about it, but here's where they got it from
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jul 2013

HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan's recent speech with him talking about this
http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/press/speeches_remarks_statements/2013/Speech_071613

Another editorial/article about it, but from the U.K.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2374226/HUD-plans-diversity-neighborhood-proposed-new-fair-housing-rule.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

And then I stumbled up this really good read when I was trying to fact check all of it. Warning, this isn't a 5min read...actual article that is well written, thought out, and has info from both sides of the aisle.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/07/american-murder-mystery/306872/

I don't think we can argue that this hasn't been happening or will continue to happen, but regardless, I don't know if people are really ready to sit down and think about the various outcomes that we arrive at. There are a lot of very smart people who dedicate their lives to doing this work, and in a lot of cases, the results are not at all what they expected (though some idiot that is all about "conspiracy theory/the government is evil" probably thinks otherwise)

Lex

(34,108 posts)
10. So enforcing fair housing rules so that people can choose where they want to live
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jul 2013

is translated by teabaggers into mandatory diversity on every block?

Figures.

SameOleDrivel

(2 posts)
17. Not a problem, glad I could help
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 01:39 AM
Jul 2013

I started seeing the same thing posted online in a few places so I started to look into it...and really, the most interesting reading was the piece from The Atlantic. Don't get me wrong, everyone loves re-reading speeches but the American Murder Mystery was put together very well and actually looked into the issue of trying to bring the poor up, and the challenges that everyone involved faces. I think some people will look at that and agree that they fell short of their goals (as many in the article related), and that they have to look back and re-evaluate methods and try and find out where things went off course. It's the few that say there is no problem, when obviously there is one, that don't help the matter at all.

People need assistance, they need a hand up, but if what you are doing to try and help them isn't actually helping them, or they are not receiving the full benefit of the assistance then it stands to reason that you should probably take stock of what you are doing, and look at what's working and why, and what's not working and why. There's a reason why it's called social SCIENCE.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
15. Several people here actually think
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:49 PM
Jul 2013

NSA is responsible for the Weiner pics. And that NSA is blackmailing him to keep him in line. It reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from a novel -

"God help us,” said Sancho. “Didn’t I tell you to watch what you were doing; that they were just windmills, and that only a person who had windmills in his head could fail to realize it?”

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
18. Where do they get this stuff??
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:22 AM
Jul 2013

My wifes Aunt comes up with that type of tripe,all the time...She gets much of it at her church from the Pastor.And if the Pastor says it,as he did with Obama being a socialist/fascist/communist,foreigner Anti-Christ and gun grabbing Black Panther,then of course it's true...

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