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boston bean

(36,223 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:51 AM Jul 2013

If Obama appoints Larry Summers as fed chair

I will have completely given up on him. Nothing could make him ok for me again.

Fucking Larry Summers?!?! WTF!?!? How is this even a consideration?

"The president of Harvard University, Lawrence H. Summers, who offended some women at an academic conference last week by suggesting that innate differences in sex may explain why fewer women succeed in science and math careers, stood by his comments yesterday but said he regretted if they were misunderstood.

I'm sorry for any misunderstanding but believe that raising questions, discussing multiple factors that may explain a difficult problem, and seeking to understand how they interrelate is vitally important," Dr. Summers said in an interview.

Several women who participated in the conference said yesterday that they had been surprised or outraged by Dr. Summers's comments, and Denice D. Denton, the chancellor designate of the University of California, Santa Cruz, questioned Dr. Summers sharply during the conference, saying she needed to "speak truth to power."

Nancy Hopkins, a professor of biology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who once led an investigation of sex discrimination there that led to changes in hiring and promotion, walked out midway through Dr. Summers's remarks.

"When he started talking about innate differences in aptitude between men and women, I just couldn't breathe because this kind of bias makes me physically ill," Dr. Hopkins said. "Let's not forget that people used to say that women couldn't drive an automobile."



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/18/national/18harvard.html?_r=0
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If Obama appoints Larry Summers as fed chair (Original Post) boston bean Jul 2013 OP
It's mainly about the 1% and their money. The misogyny thing is just an added bonus for them. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #1
Obama is in a bubble. This a masochist. Keep Larry away from us.. boston bean Jul 2013 #2
Obama is not in a bubble, he is supportive of the policies of the people he appoints to his sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #41
I don't disagree. boston bean Jul 2013 #42
Obama is a corporatist. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #3
Larry summers disgraced Harvard president? boston bean Jul 2013 #4
True True True BlueManFan Jul 2013 #19
Mr. "Real estate prices never go down?" Clearly a genius. DirkGently Jul 2013 #5
Brooksley Born, whom Summers et al told to "shut up" Triana Jul 2013 #6
Oh yes! Thanks for pointing that out. boston bean Jul 2013 #7
Actually there are innate differences between men and women... AlbertCat Jul 2013 #20
No flames from me. Triana Jul 2013 #24
Larry Summers is the smartest man in America. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #8
If only he could prove it. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #12
Summers is unfit to be a leader of anything. He knows economics geek tragedy Jul 2013 #9
He's not even a very good economist. Chan790 Jul 2013 #28
Summers knows stuff--the problem is that he thinks he knows everything. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #31
He knows the US crony finance system-- not economics. /nt Marr Jul 2013 #40
Well, maybe Bob Filner then. He's a Democrat JayhawkSD Jul 2013 #10
I don't know haw many times I've said that , in the last couple years. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #11
He's been on the side of big money since day one Marrah_G Jul 2013 #13
I completely agree with you, boston bean. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #14
Appointing Summers should fire up the base and get out the vote right? abelenkpe Jul 2013 #15
Petition at Whitehouse.gov empire we are Jul 2013 #16
I do not like having to "have an account" - Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2013 #17
Me too. MichaelKelley Jul 2013 #18
I also do not understand the policy of this government AlbertCat Jul 2013 #22
Where are the defenders? NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #21
There are none. This sack of shit really pushes the limit even for the cryin-jagists. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #23
He's even more indefensible than drone strikes on morningfog Jul 2013 #25
The official defender stance is to wait until Summers is actually nominated. djean111 Jul 2013 #32
they haven't been told what to say yet, NC Skittles Jul 2013 #35
True bigwillq Jul 2013 #39
They're currently on the "it's an unsubstantiated rumor so you can't criticize yet" phase Maven Jul 2013 #36
What could Larry Summers actually do wrong in that position? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #26
Where did they find his body? Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #27
And Mr "Stop/Frisk" Kelly fredamae Jul 2013 #29
What Wall St wants, Wall St gets, even if it is a woman hating dirtbag. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #30
What next, obama nominating Charles Murray alp227 Jul 2013 #33
duncan was bad enough but what the hell.... madrchsod Jul 2013 #34
Summers????? Really, is he all he could find? Beacool Jul 2013 #37
It's ok. bigwillq Jul 2013 #38
I doubt it. Beacool Jul 2013 #43
Looks like Robert Rubin is still calling the shots on economic policy. n/t duffyduff Jul 2013 #44
I gave up after he let Wall Street call in some favors Rex Jul 2013 #45
I have already given completely up on him. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #46
So many moments like this. woo me with science Jul 2013 #47
It's relentless. woo me with science Jul 2013 #48
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
1. It's mainly about the 1% and their money. The misogyny thing is just an added bonus for them.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:03 AM
Jul 2013

"Summers worked in the Clinton administration as a protege of Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin, and helped lead the effort to deregulate Wall Street. Rubin, a long time Goldman Sachs trader and executive, moved to Citigroup after his time in the Clinton administration."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/23/larry-summers-fed-chairman_n_3641737.html

Just as Ray Kelly would be about militantly protecting the 1%. His racism is just an added bonus as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023316627

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
41. Obama is not in a bubble, he is supportive of the policies of the people he appoints to his
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jul 2013

cabinet. It is way past time to stop pretending he has 'no power' or it's 'not his fault, Republicans are making him do it'. This is past history now. The question is, what do we do now? Electing Democrats got us a whole of Republicans placed in the cabinet of a Democratic President, it did not end Bush policies, but in some instances it strengthened them. We know all this, we've been aware of it for a long time. But now it's time to move from this era in our history and start planning from what we have learned, what we must do to from now on.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
3. Obama is a corporatist.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:24 AM
Jul 2013

Virtually EVERY appointment from the first (Rahm Emmanuel) have been Third-Way corporatists. We MAY have a chance to change that in 2016 IF we can talk a liberal into running (Elizabeth Warren) and IF we can keep her alive through the candidate-pre-selection process commonly known as the primaries wherin the largest state of the union doesn't get a say-so.

BlueManFan

(256 posts)
19. True True True
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:45 AM
Jul 2013

It is the one thing he manages to stick to despite the disgust of liberals/progressives. He sucks up to these criminals every single time!

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
6. Brooksley Born, whom Summers et al told to "shut up"
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jul 2013

decades ago when she predicted the 2008 crash well ahead of time, was a woman. And HER math was certainly more accurate than Summers or Greenspan's. Instead of listening to her they told her to shut up and that SHE was the problem, not deregulation of the markets.

SHE. WAS. RIGHT.

So this little pig can take his "women can't do math" bullshit and shove it.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/interviews/born.html

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
7. Oh yes! Thanks for pointing that out.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 08:42 AM
Jul 2013

He is a misogynist asshole.

Women ought to be up in his face over this thought, balloon, whatever the fuck it is.

Let the prez o know this is unacceptable!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
20. Actually there are innate differences between men and women...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jul 2013

Women tend to do better at MATH and CALCULATIONS.

Men seem to do better with geometry and spacial relationships.

But these differences are minuscule and really not much to base anything like who makes a better scientist on.... especially when one factors in the HUGE barrier men have put up for women to overcome.



(now watch people flame this...because they went blind after the subject line and lost all comprehension skills)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. Summers is unfit to be a leader of anything. He knows economics
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:31 AM
Jul 2013

and is probably useful as one member of an advisory team, but he's not fit to lead other human beings.

Not only sexist, but a complete asshole.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
28. He's not even a very good economist.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jul 2013

The guy's that guy who gets a degree but demonstrably knows fuck-all about his subject. That's not even touching on his human failures such as being a sexist and an anti-environmentalist loon.

Why would Obama bring him back? He's a failure as an economist. He's a failure as an economic adviser. He's a failure as Treasury Secretary. He's a failure as a university administrator. He's a failure at supervising other people. He's even a failure teaching the subject he has his Ph.D in.

Larry Summers needs to take his personal money and open a plumbing-supply store or a bakery or something where his economic impact is limited to his own wallet.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
31. Summers knows stuff--the problem is that he thinks he knows everything.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jul 2013

Which is perhaps more dangerous than knowing nothing.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. Well, maybe Bob Filner then. He's a Democrat
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:33 AM
Jul 2013

Seriously. I can think of several reasons having to do with economic policy to disapprove of Larry Summers as Fed Chair, but his misogny is not an issue for the appointment, as it is not qualification for the position and would in no way affect his performance in that office.

Yes, I agree, the man is personally repugnant, but I would put Al Capone in a position if he was able to do the best job and would best serve the interests of the nation.

Clinton was morally and personally a jackass and an idiot, but he made a pretty decent president in many respects.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
13. He's been on the side of big money since day one
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jul 2013

Campaign Obama is not Administration Obama. Very few in Washington are on our side. And those who were before they got there are quickly corrupted.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
14. I completely agree with you, boston bean.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jul 2013

Obama may as well invite Summers to take what is left of the economy. That is exactly what that Fed appointment would be. By all rights, Summers and his little gang ought to be in prison.

Even considering Summers for the Fed is a big "fuck you" to all of us. That is a betrayal too far, for me. I can no longer maintain the hope that Obama means well. It's clear that he just doesn't. And that really disgusts me.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
15. Appointing Summers should fire up the base and get out the vote right?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jul 2013

Just kidding.

Sickening that he's even being considered.

empire we are

(98 posts)
16. Petition at Whitehouse.gov
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jul 2013

Petition needs 150 signatures to go public.

http://wh.gov/laL7L


Contents of petition

we petition the obama administration to:
Not nominate Lawrence Summers for Federal Reserve Chairman.

As Treasury Secretary Mr Summers was a strong advocate for the elimination of Glass Steagall. He was also a very vocal and influential proponent of mortgage backed derivatives. Two major factors leading to the financial meltdown and the tax payer bailout of the Too Big to Fail Banks.

His appointment as FED Chairman would be a boon to Wall Street and a disaster of epic proportions for Main Street. His policies would accelerate and widen the already monstrous wealth gap in our nation.

Please...No to Lawrence Summers for FED Chair.

MichaelKelley

(55 posts)
18. Me too.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:43 AM
Jul 2013

I also do not understand the policy of this government and I do not know why they are considering Larry Summers for this post. There are many more names, which is better than him.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. I also do not understand the policy of this government
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:56 AM
Jul 2013

It that "let's change things....without changing anything!"

The ACA is an example. It is better than no ACA.... but jumps thru hoops to not really change what needs to be changed: that Health Insurance Companies must go.

Obama is milquetoast when we need someone strong to fight the mad elephant that doesn't care about right or wrong. He is ill served by his advisers. I think he could do much better with better people around him.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
21. Where are the defenders?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:49 AM
Jul 2013

Looking forward to their input on this OP. Should be fun, hope they don't disappoint by choosing to let it sink unrebutted.

 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
26. What could Larry Summers actually do wrong in that position?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jul 2013

What can he do right rather?

QE to infinity and beyond?

Taper?

Either options creates long lasting consequences, some of which are negative.

The wizards at the helm don't know what the fuck they are doing. Summers will be no different. He might be an asshole who loves corporate interests, but he is as clueless as the rest of the economic zealots

alp227

(32,047 posts)
33. What next, obama nominating Charles Murray
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

of "Bell Curve"/ scientific racism fame to the department of education?

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
34. duncan was bad enough but what the hell....
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:15 PM
Jul 2013

the horse is`t dead yet so murray can work his charm till the bitter end.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. I gave up after he let Wall Street call in some favors
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:19 AM
Jul 2013

for cabinet seats. He is really good to big business. We know how they all need help keeping afloat in this hard economy. Poor billionaires.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
46. I have already given completely up on him.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:12 AM
Jul 2013

But I understand about Summers. I wouldn't doubt that he is both nominated and confirmed. Idiocracy, baby!

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