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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:03 AM Jul 2013

Edward Snowden Is Winning

Earlier this month, Politico warned that Edward Snowden's "nightmare may be coming true" — that is, that his efforts would yield no systemic change. Even at the time, that was an iffy argument. But now it seems that the opposite is the case. Edward Snowden may be getting everything his heart desired: a change in policies, a shift in attitudes, and — perhaps surprising even himself — personal freedom.

When Snowden first reached out to reporters, offering details on the National Security Agency's surveillance systems, he did so with some trepidation. "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," he wrote in one of his first communications with The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald, but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant." In a video interview with the paper, he spoke the line that was the focal point of that Politico article:


The greatest fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. People will see in the media all of these disclosures. They'll know the lengths that the government is going to grant themselves powers unilaterally to create greater control over American society and global society. But they won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things to force their representatives to actually take a stand in their interests.

Which brings us to today.

Policy changes are moving forward. Later today, the House of Representatives will vote on an amendment to a Department of Defense spending bill that would rescind any funding that could be used by the NSA to collect metadata on phone calls — one of the aspects of the agency's surveillance revealed by Snowden.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/07/edward-snowden-winning/67541/
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Edward Snowden Is Winning (Original Post) The Straight Story Jul 2013 OP
I certainly don't call Snowden a hero... I don't have to. He did, however, expose a horrible wrong AzDar Jul 2013 #1
There has been a change in public attitude - a lot more people are paying attention leveymg Jul 2013 #2
I thought for sure this was going to be a quote from Charlie Sheen. JTFrog Jul 2013 #3
This one from Platoon? leveymg Jul 2013 #4
Not according to the ProPagandists MNBrewer Jul 2013 #5
Nice. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #6
The mysterious Blue Lynx? nt Zorra Jul 2013 #10
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #17
Rah Rah for Snowjob! Does he get a trophy if he wins? tridim Jul 2013 #7
All hail the hero Snowden, taking refuge from tyranny railsback Jul 2013 #8
"In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you..." Valerie Plame Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #9
Color me a "Snowden-Leftist" K&R ~nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #11
+ 1 nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2013 #13
Recommend. KoKo Jul 2013 #12
knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #14
Will he return to US? n/t GreedIsGood Jul 2013 #15
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #16
The House could rescind funding? Remember Ollie North after the Boland Amendment was passed? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #18
I wonder if we should surrender at the Moscow airport. Progressive dog Jul 2013 #19
 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
1. I certainly don't call Snowden a hero... I don't have to. He did, however, expose a horrible wrong
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jul 2013

being perpetrated by our government against its own citizenry, and for that, he deserves our thanks, respect, and protection.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. There has been a change in public attitude - a lot more people are paying attention
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:08 AM
Jul 2013

and don't like what they see is going on at NSA and in many corners of the US intelligence establishment. This is coming together as part of a Perfect Storm as the US plunges further into the muck of the Syrian civil war the Obama Administration covertly helped to create, which is spreading into a raging regional and global religious war between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shi'ia Iran.

What could possibly go wrong with all that?

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. This one from Platoon?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:14 AM
Jul 2013
Sgt. Elias: What happened today was just the beginning. We're gonna lose this war.

Chris Taylor: Come on. You really think so? Us?

Sgt. Elias: We been kicking other peoples asses for so long, I figured it's time we got ours kicked.
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
9. "In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you..." Valerie Plame
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jul 2013
"In a way, we as U.S. citizens owe Edward Snowden a thank you for having brought this issue to the forefront and so that we can begin to have a serious and genuine conversation about these issues."
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
18. The House could rescind funding? Remember Ollie North after the Boland Amendment was passed?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:10 PM
Jul 2013

The NSA could probably self-fund anything that it wants to do.

Progressive dog

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19. I wonder if we should surrender at the Moscow airport.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

It might pass the RW house since there are lots of Republicans that will do anything to attack Obama, but forget the Senate. The best Snowden can hope for is a home that isn't in an airport.

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