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Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:11 PM - Edit history (1)
A man shouted out "my daughter has insurance now!"
The President replied "I appreciate that...that's what this is about....that is what we have been fighting for!"
That just shows the Republicans that President Obama doesn't just talk, he ACTS! And those actions are affecting REAL AMERICANS!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)of currently uninsured Americans are able to obtain/purchase quality health insurance, we will be able to take back the House if we use this wisely as a cornerstone for stumping for Democrats.
Boots on the ground campaigning with this will be our ace in the hole.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)"My adult sons have insurance now!"
They don't. It's not THAT affordable.
I'd even more like to be able to shout, "My family has health CARE now."
I have insurance, but can't afford the care. Insurance doesn't guarantee care. It still costs, and my deductible has skyrocketed. The only time I get care is when I can't function without it. It puts me into debt. I'm still paying off the treatment for an abscess 6 months ago that only used about half of the deductible. My premium, though, is 30% MORE than my son's mortgage.
EC
(12,287 posts)Check and see if you'd be eligible for lower deductibles and copays, as well as a cheaper premium and subsides.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)depending on what OEBB negotiates for us. The plans are up; my plan shows no changes in deductibles or benefits, but the costs have not been posted yet.
Those will show up in the next month, so that we can choose from those plans offered. I have the cheapest plan offered, which is the only plan I can afford the premium for. Of course, it means the deductibles are high enough that I don't get care outside of emergencies.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Both have looked at what will be available to them on the exchange next year.
Neither find what the exchange will offer "affordable," meaning fitting their budget without sacrificing luxuries like rent/mortgage, utilities, and food.
Skittles
(153,183 posts)insurance companies want that money too
Hey, I hear McDonalds has insurance for $20 a month!
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Obamacare during the campaign. I think Romney was genuinely stunned that the President stole his insult.
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)The GOP was trying to be so clever, but they failed once again!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts).... and don't look too closely at that insurance policy or you'll probably find an exorbitant premium & ridiculous co-pay and/or deductible.
Yay us for making insurance companies richer!!
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)What a fucked up mess
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I've heard right wingers make the ame claim you make ... they never have a source for it ... do you?
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)Perhaps you've missed them but there are several Obamacare calculators online to help people figure out their costs. Also sites to help you determine the penalties
Compare and contrast to current median wage and working poverty levels - maybe even talk to real people struggling with real budgets
..you'll find several 'sources' for the general statement that the penalty will be cheaper in many cases
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)amused by those who think they are the only ones who do.
No credible sources for the claim. I thought not.
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)than the lowest priced insurance policy will cost.
calimary
(81,440 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)
and oh-so-very-gracious-and-benevolent-and-generous lowering of my rates, with a 90-dollar check. It was a pleasant surprise. But I looked at it and said "My ASS. That was no Lord-Bountiful thing you can take credit for out of the "goodness" of your "heart". That was the Affordable Care Act - that MADE you do it.
Sometimes when business and corporate America won't do the right thing, we need the government to step in and MAKE them do it. Just as very few kids are willing just voluntarily to pick up after themselves. You have to MAKE them do it. Or if they won't do their homework voluntarily, you have to MAKE them do it. My son never EVER wanted to wake up in the morning for school. We had to MAKE him do it.
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)"Look at how generous private insurance companies are being to hard working Americans....The free market at work!!"
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)blue neen
(12,327 posts)because of the life-time limit scam the insurance companies used to get rid of people.
I'm very thankful for the ACA.
K&R.
calimary
(81,440 posts)They both had those lovely marvelous "pre-existing conditions."
NO LONGER!!!
And funny enough, my friend the ardent GOP-supporter, even while a union member and the parent of a daughter of childbearing age, was against it. Until she found out her kids were actually covered under her insurance. She shut up about how awful "Obamacare" was, and I never heard any more Pox Noise-issued talking points out of her about that, from then on. The kid who drums in my kid's band is a childhood cancer survivor. His parents were THRILLED to discover that they could keep him covered until he's 26. THRILLED!!! And relieved as hell! He's been in full remission since age seven, but his mom still worries about him every day. And by Jove, he's insured for another three years - long enough for the band, hopefully, to get on its feet in some way.
blue neen
(12,327 posts)My son got laid off recently and has been paying these ridiculous COBRA premiums. I'm hopeful that he'll be able to find something more reasonable now.
I hope your son's friend continues to do well!
calimary
(81,440 posts)I got stuck with that option after I went out on maternity leave and the company's insurance plan only covered me for a few weeks after I left. And of course, around the same time, my paychecks stopped, too - they only stayed in place for a minimum amount of time. So to stay covered, for myself postpartum AND my new baby, cost $800 a month. That was in 1989. It wasn't something we felt we could afford to let lapse. But it's really awful when a) your paycheck and company insurance both disappear and b) you have to pay through the nose to maintain some level of coverage, but without that regular paycheck to cover that extra expense.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)she's about 17 now ... and for years, the insurance companies would not cover her for anything more than basic kid illnesses and sports injuries. She had kidney stones and they claimed "pre-existing condition" and would not cover it.
Until ACA. It was costing my sister a fortune, now its covered.
And my niece can never be denied insurance in the future.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and with the expansion of Med-Cal (Medicaid) and Medicare, more people are now under some type of health care coverage. I would love 100% of Americans be covered by health care and single payer enacted but alas you still have opposition and the gopers want to repeal it altogether.
Cha
(297,553 posts)those cheap ignorant pot shots say.. PBO does "walk the walk". And, that's what's important.
Mahalo!
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Freddie
(9,273 posts)And his wife has a serious heart condition. If they lost her insurance through her work (he's self employed) they would not be able to get insurance now no matter how much they would pay. No more, thanks to Obamacare. Now they can sleep at night.
I despise the GOP with a white-hot passion.