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xchrom

(108,903 posts) Wed Jul 24, 2013, 04:56 PM Jul 2013

Tech firms say they are losing business over NSA surveillance

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/24/tech-firms-say-they-are-losing-business-over-nsa-surveillance/

Revelations about the US government’s vast data collection programs have already started hurting American technology firms, according to an industry survey released this week.

The Cloud Security Alliance said 10 percent of its non-US members have cancelled a contract with a US-based cloud provider, and 56 percent said they were less likely to use an American company.

The online survey was taken between June 25 and July 9, following media revelations of programs that collect the phone logs of millions of Americans, as well as Internet data from the accounts of foreign targets, as a way to thwart terror attacks.

The organization received a total of 456 responses from its member base, about half of which were outside the United States. The alliance includes some 48,000 individual members and corporations involved in security and other Internet-based businesses.

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Tech firms say they are losing business over NSA surveillance (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2013 OP

Great picture dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

What the hell did they think was going on? eom leveymg Jul 2013 #2

Starve the beast. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #3

The *only* thing the Beast notices, really villager Jul 2013 #4

Yep. We just need to figure out how to use that tool maximally. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #6

Woohoo, let's celebrate the loss of jobs that will result from Snowden's treason. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #5

Once again blame the messenger instead of the REAL treasonous criminals in the NSA... cascadiance Jul 2013 #9

This could have some serious repercussions down the road Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #7

No, they are losing business because of Snowden's vague claims. randome Jul 2013 #8

I don't think that document describing metadata gathering of Verizon customers was VAGUE AT ALL! cascadiance Jul 2013 #10

Don't bother Hydra Jul 2013 #11

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)

1. Great picture

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:15 PM

Jul 2013

leveymg

(36,418 posts)

2. What the hell did they think was going on? eom

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:18 PM

Jul 2013

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

3. Starve the beast.

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:29 PM

Jul 2013

villager

(26,001 posts)

4. The *only* thing the Beast notices, really

Reply to TalkingDog (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:37 PM

Jul 2013

n/t

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

6. Yep. We just need to figure out how to use that tool maximally.

Reply to villager (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:40 PM

Jul 2013

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)

5. Woohoo, let's celebrate the loss of jobs that will result from Snowden's treason.

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:38 PM

Jul 2013

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)

9. Once again blame the messenger instead of the REAL treasonous criminals in the NSA...

Reply to AllINeedIsCoffee (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 06:42 PM

Jul 2013

... and others in the national security industrial complex that keep violating our fourth amendment constitutional rights without any criminal prosecutions that should be happening now! Whether Snowden gave us the truth, or someone else later did, it would have lead to this same outcome, and they would just blame the other messenger instead.

A lot of techies picking up t-shirts getting memberships with the Electronic Frontier Foundation at their both this week at OSCON here in Portland! A lot of them see the crap that's going on!

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)

7. This could have some serious repercussions down the road

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:41 PM

Jul 2013

A growing number of young, wealthy tech types favor a libertarian philosophy anyway.

Even more might start baking Rand Paul types if it is costing them money.

And that is a lot of money and influence.

randome

(34,845 posts)

8. No, they are losing business because of Snowden's vague claims.

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 06:09 PM

Jul 2013

Remember, he said he "saw things". Although he won't ever say what that means. But apparently it's enough to frighten the easily panicked.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)

10. I don't think that document describing metadata gathering of Verizon customers was VAGUE AT ALL!

Reply to randome (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 06:47 PM

Jul 2013

What alternate universe are you in? Or government agency that is perhaps...

Hydra

(14,459 posts)

11. Don't bother

Reply to cascadiance (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:47 AM

Jul 2013

He'll follow up with how this is metadata and irrelevant. Then someone will show him that it's not just metadata(although that's not legal either) and he'll either disappear or say "no it's not!"

We've been watching the same act for weeks now. Wondering if his chosen name wasn't a hint.

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