the NSA has all of Carlos Danger's dick pics in a secure and undisclosed location

Even if they've never done it.

If I was that age...I would have asked my father.

For public office regardless of race, gender, or sexual preferences and that's what makes America so great.

Please don't make this about GLBT Issues. Weiner was taking photos of his Penis in positions to attract people on the Internet. And, what if it had been an underage girl or guy who got involved? Your Kid or Mine?

in the first place. And if they wanted to ask about it, I'd expect they would go to Mrs. Obama in private, not the father.

It's a difficult issue and many of us parents have had to deal with difficult issues...and that's why I wonder how THE President and First Lady would answer it.

This is my first and only comment in terms of a whiff of the so called texting scandal involving the Dem running in New York for office. I don't think it is a scandal at all, and it is his business, and there was nothing wrong with it anyway. That is all I have to say about that. It is a non-issue in my mind.

even after having to Resign from US Congress because the photos were so offensive...and does it while his wife is pregnant and then DOES IT again (engaging with a young women whose age he couldn't really know from Facebook to be "of age" of consenst) in 2012 while he's planning a Mayoral run for NYC Mayor...just because he is a Democrat has the character to "represent the people of NYC?"

Are you SERIOUS?

Yup, it is no big deal to me. I don't care about that part of his private life. It is HIS business. Just like I didn't care that Bill Clinton was playing around on Hillary while he was president. They worked it out, and everything is cool apparently. Again, none of my business.

"quinnox."..I can't believe you are saying this? You don't think that the Monica Thing compromised Bill Clinton in his second term? You don't think that if Weiner has a real problem that needs to be addressed that he goes online as a 40 Something and keeps posting photos of himself and his "member" in compromising positions to attract young women (even if they were underage...how would he know) and then engages them in sexual conversations that could compromise both he and those he entices is a problem?

If a Repug did this you'd not be concerned. How should one decide to vote for a Candidate if their life is so compromised that entice young folks with sexual pictures of their Private Parts and then have to resign but DO IT AGAIN and run for Mayor or Higher Office.

I find it hard to understand why you don't think that character has something to do with policy and that compromised character means one might elect a compromised Politician who will NOT be the person you thought you voted for and is therefore not someone who is fit to SERVE THE PEOPLE.

Help me understand you here.

KoKo.

I said I personally don't care about these sexual peccadilloes politicians get into. One big reason is I have read that politicians and people who seek power, well, they have very strong sexual drives. It makes sense, if you think about it. So, since they have higher than normal sexual drives, they are bound to get into trouble sometimes. Why do you think so much of this happens? Are these guys all really that dumb? No. Maybe some of them can't help it. Obsessions and addictions and compulsions can be very powerful, especially when it comes to the natural sex drive. So you might say I understand why it happens.

That doesn't mean I approve in terms of a moral basis. I said what John Edwards did was scumbag-worthy, and still believe that. That was a bit different though, because his wife was dying at the time, and Edwards kept making phony denials time and time again when he was asked about the rumors of his affair. So, he kept lying about it, and betrayed his wife in a terrible way while she was seriously ill. So I condemn that totally.

Yes, I'm sure Clinton was damaged politically, but what could I do about it. Nothing. it is his business. He screwed up. I couldn't help him. I for sure am not going to stand on a pedestal and wag my finger in a self-righteous manner at him. No, I won't do that. I am not a religious fundie like that. Was it wrong, morally? Sure. Was it as serious as say, invading Iraq and starting a war based on lies that got thousands of people killed in terms of a moral failure? Not a chance!

This thing with this Democrat Weiner, it is not like he went out and slept with these girls. He is just texting "dirty" pics. I don't see that as anything noteworthy. It is a very minor thing in my mind.

SORRY! That is the way I feel.

and you've been on DU long enough I wanted to understand your perspective because we often agree in threads on some posts here.

I can understand your viewpoint...and about Power and Sex...

I would wish we could find leaders where that isn't the driving force who also can have enough of a presence that Voters would find Issues more important than "Physical/Sexual Prowess" as to how they get into office and how they run the country when they get there.

So...just saying where I'm coming from...but, thanks for expressing your view...which ..yep..I have seen and can understand.

I respect you enough as a long time duer so that is why I gave you a more detailed explanation.

We don't know.

'Course, the question probably never came up in either instance. Your deep concern for the children is noted.

Maybe you are too young...and maybe you just don't give a crap about it. But, Many of us DO...who are trying to raise children with a sense of how important it is to "serve the people" when you become an ADULT. Would you say that Weiner is acting like a Role Model for America's children to aspire to be?

Young teens have lots more on their mind (like boys) than asking about something like this.

It was such a piece of delightful partisan BuLLSHIT.

You must be a huge fan too.

I'd tell Malia and Sasha that Weiner sent cock pics to a friend who was not his wife. Then the friend got mad and sent the pictures to a website called "The Dirty".

I would suggest that they avoid sexting and taking pictures of themselves if they do not want them to show up on the internet. They are already public figures, but especially if they plan to run for office.

I would suggest they avoid putting drunk pictures on facebook as well.

So pretty much what any sane parent would tell their kids.

and was an ADULT when he did it. This was not a Kid's innocent thing getting caught in "antics." This was an Adult Married Man with a child on the way.

But, I do agree your advice is a good thing to kids today.

That being said, whether he is married or not is irrelevant to me, because it's none of my business to judge what behavior may or may not be accepted in their specific marriage. No politician will ever admit to having an open marriage. Similarly, no politician should ever have to explain the details of their relationship with their spouse.

If my boss knew what I did in my private time, to the point of knowing the content of my texts/emails/etc, it might make him view my work at my job differently. And vice-versa. Though I am guilty of sending and receiving photos and emails in my life, I'm lucky that I'm not important enough for people to try to access and share the info, or others to care about it.

I've been in poly relationships before, and I have many friends in them now, and it's no problem. However, if any of them were running for public office, I would expect them to publicly present themselves as "traditional".

It's possible that his wife is devastated by this betrayal. It's also possible she had no problem with it. I've seen couples who encourage and even enjoy this kind if thing. It's not my business.

BUT, if one is running for public office, and needing the support of lots of people to whom that is foreign, extreme care is required, so as not to affect the public "image". His carelessness is more important to me than his actual actions

Nor do I believe the presidency should be obligated to render political opinions on the behavior of other politicians let alone political candidates. I wouldn't want Obama roped into this nonsense.

Weiner has Press Conference today and says "I'm Still Running!"

For Obama to lower himself into the fray is to either become a campaign commercial for the GOP in the NY mayoral race ("Even Obama has not faith in Weiner.&quot or Obama becomes a campaign commercial for the GOP on a national level ("Obama even supported Anthony Weiner's infidelities!&quot .

If there is no way to win the best course is to not play the game.

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because he's a good salesman.

respond that the White House has bigger weiners-on-a-stick (Boehner and McConnell) to roast.

...they probably already know about this sort of thing.

But, it is a chapter in Presidential History that will always be a stain on Clinton's Reputation.

And I was the last person (naive as I was) to believe the Starr Commission and all that stuff about the "Blue Dress. I thought it was RW Atrocity Smears. I WAS WRONG.

I learned from that. Would you want Weiner as President?

The kids are old enough to know about betrayal, romances at that age being short on duration and long on emotion.

I still don't see what the fuss is about. It's not like he went out and got laid, he just likes to talk dirty to other women.

And as long as Diaper Man Vitter is in Congress, we don't have to explain a damned thing to Republicans.

couldn't have gone farther? He offered her a Condo...and a job at Politico.

This is a guy who wants to pay women favors for viewing his "part" and it could go further.

Scott Ritter is sitting in Jail...for much the same thing. And, Scott Ritter helped expose that there were NO WMD's in IRAQ. But, he's in jail...and Weiner is running for Mayor of NYC.

Is it only Repugs we are supposed to bring down for sexual problems that could have wider ramifications. But...Dems get a pass?

How is that? Is that not hypocritical? What does that say about us? If Repugs and Former Dem President does it...then those are the kind of leaders we WANT? Maybe that's what got us where we are in this country and the world these days. GIVING A PASS to Privilege...because of PARTY LOYALTY? It filters down...and compromises come from behavior that can be compromised. We are hypocrites when we continue this stuff.