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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you read anything today, make it this comments section from Guardian.
Following the story on the amash amendment in Congress this afternoon.
The comments seem to me to be the kind of astonishment and fervor that would have fueled the dumping of the tea in the Boston harbor so long ago.
The world is being radicalized right before our very eyes. Best to pay attention now.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/24/white-house-congress-amendment-nsa-surveillance?commentpage=4
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)Lost 205 to 217. A majority of Republicans supported the Whitehouse, a majority of Democrats supported the amendment.
that should be a HEADLINE and OP.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)hadn't come out against it ....I think it might have passed. And, that's sad...because it shows he's totally in favor of Massive Spying on all Americans and anyone they contact. 12 votes ...and who were they?
pscot
(21,024 posts)They apparently had military brass and security honchos launch a full court press on Capitol Hill. Condition red; terrorist attack imminent.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)micro-logging/indexing the entire populace into categories - behavior and predicted behavior analysis. This nation is on a horribly dangerous path ... ushering in who knows what horrific regimes in the future.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)..... the day my heart stood still in total disbelief.
I could write the same right now.
The Amash/Conyers amendment was the best of the solutions offerred. Now we'll get second or third best, if anything, and the NSA will continue as planned. Our liberty is not a part of their plan. imho
spin
(17,493 posts)It appears they may have won as our War on Terror is turning our nation into a police state.
Don't kid yourself. The 1% believe data gathering is a great idea as it will help insure that little will change in our nation. The rich will get richer and the middle class will continue to disappear.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Someone pointed out sideways how the President used the bully pulpit to defeat this.
How many people have told us the President is Powerless and needs to stay "neutral"?
He does a perfectly good job using his influence when he really wants something.