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It appears Zimmerman's "heroic rescue" may have been staged (Original Post) Galraedia Jul 2013 OP
Aha! femmocrat Jul 2013 #1
Yeah I guess those of us who said it was a fake were right. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #2
Sure. McPops Jul 2013 #9
Do you have any doubts about this case. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #11
I'm disappointed McPops Jul 2013 #18
I am not taking everything from this blog as gospel but the media will look at it. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #19
And do what? McPops Jul 2013 #26
Well fortunately the media will ask their own questions. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #27
That part might be true... Pelican Jul 2013 #28
So do you think this Zimmerman is a hero story is true? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #29
I think there was an accident... Pelican Jul 2013 #34
There may have been an accident but I don't believe zimmerman was hero. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #35
You need one of those sirens that beeps as you back up... Pelican Jul 2013 #37
Think what you will but the story does is just too weird. Why did it take 4 days to report? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #38
do we even need to ask, hrmjustin? Skittles Jul 2013 #47
Perhaps a government records request JimDandy Jul 2013 #41
That would not be on government record McPops Jul 2013 #46
Florida has strong sunshine laws JimDandy Jul 2013 #50
NO SHIT... ELI BOY 1950 Jul 2013 #3
Interesting Bethany Rockafella Jul 2013 #4
Forgive me, but this seems very silly to me. Marr Jul 2013 #5
One where Zimmerman is the "hero" perhaps... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #6
One where he has to pull four individuals from an overturned vehicle/ Tutonic Jul 2013 #43
Flipped cars are not minor. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #44
Exactly--photos for insurance claims for example. A roll-over is not a minor incident. anneboleyn Jul 2013 #45
I can agree with this. I don't like the guy and I don't see him as a hero. Xyzse Jul 2013 #52
Maybe the Crashers are right! bigwillq Jul 2013 #7
All I can say is.. Cha Jul 2013 #8
If the police involvement is true, shouldn't this guy get in trouble anneboleyn Jul 2013 #10
of course they should, except this conspiracy theory is most likely pure woo. dionysus Jul 2013 #14
You mean someone may have lied on the internet to advance their pet cause?! Pelican Jul 2013 #32
I will remain a "crasher" until I see some actual photos, evidence. reformist2 Jul 2013 #12
Does anyone really give a shit? nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2013 #13
I think there was an accident but wtf Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #15
Do you really think this blog has the officer's phone records wercal Jul 2013 #39
OH nooos... but there is photographic proof!! AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #16
Ahahahah! Gun in the waistband. I love it! Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #40
I think it's supposed to be in the back. But then no one would actually see that it is there. jtuck004 Jul 2013 #42
yeah that super- Cha Jul 2013 #48
You win this thread! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2013 #51
Were these 911 calls fake, also? cpwm17 Jul 2013 #17
But Anomaly from Freakoutnation says that the rescue was staged McPops Jul 2013 #21
Where are Zimmy's DU pals? They'll tell us what to do. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #20
busy laughing at the lunacy? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #31
so the victim and cop have a FB photo together and cop texted Z? ODD lunasun Jul 2013 #22
It IS weird. Plus not one cell phone pic or video in this day and age? Also odd. anneboleyn Jul 2013 #23
agree - just weird lunasun Jul 2013 #24
Not another Crasher? What brought you to that conclusion? HipChick Jul 2013 #25
it's almost too goofy to believe Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #30
George "chicken cheese" Zimmerman, a true American hero, my ass c588415 Jul 2013 #33
I would have thought that the one sure thing that Zimmie matthews Jul 2013 #36
Zimmerman ... Failed as a wannabe cop ... Now he's a wannabe emergency rescue technician chemenger Jul 2013 #49
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. Yeah I guess those of us who said it was a fake were right.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jul 2013

Hey Zimmerman fans can you explain this?

 

McPops

(69 posts)
9. Sure.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jul 2013
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In other words, freakoutnation is a blog where anyone can post anything. Exactly how did anyone manage to secure the private cell phone records of the police officer. And who did it?

I'm not saying that the original story wasn't embellished. But... c'mon. Use a little bit of skepticism.
 

McPops

(69 posts)
18. I'm disappointed
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jul 2013

I thought you would fire back by trying to refute my statement.

But to answer your question...

Not really. I mean, there are some things that I don't know that I wish I did. For example, I wish I knew what happened between Zimmerman and Trayvon in the seconds before the fight broke out.

 

McPops

(69 posts)
26. And do what?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jul 2013

The "investigator" wasn't named. The author of the article is anonymous. The web site has no credibility as a news source.

Sure, the news item may be genuine. But it looks to me more like a wild goose chase.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
27. Well fortunately the media will ask their own questions.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jul 2013

MSNBC will send investigators on the story. They are not going to let this go.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
28. That part might be true...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jul 2013

... they are desperate to have something to push back with after they edited the 911 tapes for dramatic and racist effect.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
34. I think there was an accident...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:48 PM
Jul 2013

... and Zimmerman was physically there. At some point he probably made physical contact with one of the victims that ranged from a touch on a shoulder to pulling them out of a vehicle.

That's about it..

Do I consider that to be heroic? No. Not any significant risk to himself.

Is that probably better that 90% of the populace who just drove by? Yeah...

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
35. There may have been an accident but I don't believe zimmerman was hero.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:50 PM
Jul 2013

I have doubts about much of it. Time will tell.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
38. Think what you will but the story does is just too weird. Why did it take 4 days to report?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:54 PM
Jul 2013

Why did the family pull out of the presser?

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
47. do we even need to ask, hrmjustin?
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:16 AM
Jul 2013

according to Pops, Zimmy is a swell guy who "just wanted to help" (IN BOTH INCIDENTS), dead teenaged boy be damned

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
41. Perhaps a government records request
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jul 2013
"Exactly how did anyone manage to secure the private cell phone records of the police officer."


was made for the officers work phone logs.
 

McPops

(69 posts)
46. That would not be on government record
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:03 AM
Jul 2013

And the story would have mentioned it if that is how they obtained the information.

There is a simpler explanation: The story is bogus.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
50. Florida has strong sunshine laws
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jul 2013

so, unless the state has made a specific exemption in their governmental records request law, the logs of a city-owned police department phone should be public record, as are 911 logs and their audio content (although private info from logs, such as names and phone numbers, are nearly always redacted).

If a records request was made for Officer Rehders official phone log, what the requester probably received was a log with a time stamp indicating a call was made from that phone immediately after the officer received the call about the accident.

If that is all the blogger received, a log with phone number redacted, then it was too big a leap to make to assume that that call was to George Zimmerman.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
5. Forgive me, but this seems very silly to me.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:37 PM
Jul 2013

You can't seriously be saying the story is suspect because there are no photographs. Who takes photos of minor roadway accidents?

Don't get me wrong, it sounds to me like claims that he "saved" anyone are overblown exaggerations. But the notion that he might have stopped to help people in a car that had overturned isn't shocking at all. I've done it myself and I'm certainly no hero, nor did anyone treat me as such afterward. It's just a rather unspectacular occurrence.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
43. One where he has to pull four individuals from an overturned vehicle/
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:52 AM
Jul 2013

I suspect that most of what happened was staged to make that fat ass look like a man. Evidently its working for a lot of DUers.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
44. Flipped cars are not minor.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jul 2013

And, if folks had to be rescued you'd better believe someone would have filmed it. With or without Super Zman. And, there would be photos or insurance and police reports.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
52. I can agree with this. I don't like the guy and I don't see him as a hero.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jul 2013

I've also stopped and helped an overturned car more than once. Of course, I left as soon as there are more capable hands are there, and I've reported it to 911.

It is an unspectacular occurrence, and I don't see why it is being hyped up so much.

Cha

(297,334 posts)
8. All I can say is..
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:16 AM - Edit history (1)

If zimmer man was called into to rescue them.. though nobody is talking about it much and there's no pics.. It's a Damn Good Thing the Gerstles aren't a Black Family.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
10. If the police involvement is true, shouldn't this guy get in trouble
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jul 2013

for trying to orchestrate an "incident" like this for Zimmerman (and possibly endangering a family as Zimmy's rescue took place before trained medical personnel arrived at the scene)? Very odd behavior for a police officer.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
14. of course they should, except this conspiracy theory is most likely pure woo.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jul 2013

who got the cops cell phone records?

they staged a roll over with a fire with no one else driving by and witnessing it?

sometimes this shit is just silly.

Z is a murdering piece of shit, but even hitler liked dogs....

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
32. You mean someone may have lied on the internet to advance their pet cause?!
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jul 2013

Say it ain't so!

Maybe it's super hackers!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
15. I think there was an accident but wtf
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:59 PM
Jul 2013

the officer was doing texting Zimmerman to go "help" should be investigated.

The officer fills his FB page with pro-Zim crap, has the guy's phone number. And people are saying there was no chance of any collusion of Sandford PD and Zimmerman? BS.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
39. Do you really think this blog has the officer's phone records
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:57 PM
Jul 2013

And they know he texted Zimmerman...because they know his number?

This blog is woo.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
42. I think it's supposed to be in the back. But then no one would actually see that it is there.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 12:20 AM
Jul 2013


Again.
 

McPops

(69 posts)
21. But Anomaly from Freakoutnation says that the rescue was staged
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jul 2013

When someone like Anomaly from Freakoutnation can't be trusted, then I'm tellin' you... you just can't trust anyone.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
23. It IS weird. Plus not one cell phone pic or video in this day and age? Also odd.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jul 2013

I am not trying to be a conspiracy nutcase. Honestly. It is just weird at this point.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
30. it's almost too goofy to believe
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jul 2013

I think some people here need to take a long break from the news and DU.

c588415

(285 posts)
33. George "chicken cheese" Zimmerman, a true American hero, my ass
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jul 2013

I was waiting to hear a news flash from FOX News stating that Zimmerman rescued a black family involved in a car crash. What a load of crap!

 

matthews

(497 posts)
36. I would have thought that the one sure thing that Zimmie
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:51 PM
Jul 2013

would have made absolutely sure to do would be to have some kind of proof that all this happened.

chemenger

(1,593 posts)
49. Zimmerman ... Failed as a wannabe cop ... Now he's a wannabe emergency rescue technician
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:02 AM
Jul 2013


On Edit: BTW ... the family he helped "rescue" reportedly didn't show up for the staged photo op because they were afraid of being targeted. O'Mara in particular looked very disappointed.
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