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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 07:59 AM Jul 2013

Late-Term Abortion Bans Have Support

A plurality of Americans supports the sort of late-pregnancy abortion bans that have roiled the political landscape by winning approval in a number of states, most recently in Texas, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

The support for state bans 20 weeks after an egg's fertilization comes amid continued evidence that most Americans favor some restrictions on abortion, with far fewer saying the procedure should be legal or illegal in all cases.

In the new survey of 1,000 Americans, 44% said they would support a ban in their state on abortions 20 weeks postfertilization, compared with 37% who would oppose such a ban.

Overall, 28% of respondents say abortion should be legal under all circumstances, while 21% say it should be legal most of the time. The poll found that 11% say abortion should be illegal without exceptions, while 37% say it should be illegal with some exceptions.

Nebraska in 2010 became the first state to pass a law banning abortion 20 weeks after fertilization. That mark is generally equivalent to 22 weeks of pregnancy, which is timed from the woman's last menstrual period.

A number of states have passed 20-week bans since, including the measure in Texas, which state lawmakers approved this month after an attempt to pass the bill in June was stymied by a state senator's filibuster that drew national attention.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324564704578626063938088812.html

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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
4. Pretty sure we will see more of them as a 'compromise'
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:06 AM
Jul 2013

between those who want total ban and those who want absolutely no restrictions.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
13. Probably. Politicians aren't very good at distinguishing between fact-based, good-faith disagreement
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

and the kind of certifiable insanity that the RW offers. They assume each perspective has merit and that a compromise is always best.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. FYI: Not 20 week bans. It's after the point of viability and
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:13 AM
Jul 2013

20 week bans, are as more than one federal judge has made clear, blatantly unconstitutional.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. But they must provide an exception for a woman's life and health.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:27 AM
Jul 2013

And that must be at the physician and the woman's judgement.

Many of those bans force a woman to carry a doomed pregnancy to term, and deliver a baby that will not live even hours, because the pregnancy did not endanger her physical health.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. People are ignorant. Not only
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:05 AM
Jul 2013

are fetuses not viable at twenty weeks, but testing for genetic problems and looking for hydrocephaly continues beyond 20 weeks. In fact, there is a window when it is safest to do amniocentesis, and results may not be available for another few weeks, making planning a termination almost impossible under these new laws.

People need to listen to doctors, not pretend that legislators are experts on women's health.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
5. If someone is having a 'late term abortion' chances are it is not because they want to.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:11 AM
Jul 2013

By that time most women wanted that baby and are devastated to have to do it.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. I think you are correct on this.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jul 2013

See my post several up about genetic testing, if you haven't already read it.

I can't imagine why anyone would willingly delay having a termination from the easier, early term abortion, to a more complicated procedure unless there were issues that genetic testing or developmental problems (brain development issues) involved.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. And I'm sure that we could muster ban of "On-demand amputations"
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:35 AM
Jul 2013

by making people believe that hundreds of people every year are demanding, on a whim, that they or their children get amputations of healthy limbs, because there is no law specifically forbidding it.

We would just make physicians and EMTs dealing with emergency situations like the Boston Marathon bombing jump through all kinds of legal hoops and second and third independent opinions before amputating any limb.

Why are people so willing to believe that same sort of crap about women, and refuse to believe that they can and will make good choices about their pregnancy with their physician????

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
15. I think it boils down to a certain segment of society likes to control others
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jul 2013

And when they cannot fully control their choices they force a compromise (which they later use to get more concessions).

Happens all too often....

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