for. When their lies are exposed, the left isnt surprised and the right doesnt care, and the exposure is, well... exposure.

The faux news viewer just shrugs and moves on to the next faux news outrage, which is also a lie...and so it continues, feeding the messed up limited worldview of the faux news viewer.

They've got this creepy "Aryan race" thing going on that channel.

There was this mother that blamed an unknown black assailant for killing her kid, when she was the one who did it.

Ugh.

Then drowned her kids in the car. 1994.

http://newsone.com/193331/top-5-the-black-guy-did-it-excuses-by-white-criminals/

Was disgusting.

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Just Google for tons of links...

Peace,

Ghost

Two years after Stuart murdered his own wife, Jesse Anderson in 1992 tried the same saying two African-American men attacked him and his wife as they left a Milwaukee Restaurant. She was stabbed 37 times.

He was later killed in prison by another inmate who had also killed Jeffrey Dahmer.

I wonder if he'll show up in a Nevada jail someday. OJ, look out.

the murder weapon was, and that one of those two darling angels had committed armed robbery with a handgun very shortly before this incident.

Also, the eyewitnesses and the fact that the mother was SHOT. People who get shot at close range do tend to get gunpowder on them.

Did he approach the crime scene and hold his dead baby, or crying wife. I don't know. But it looks to me like the kids are the ones who did this. If the gun matches crimes the kid committed days before, how could the mother of the baby get the gun if she did this? I haven't been following the case.

very possible if not likely he'd get some on his hands.

The whole "the mother did it" scenario has never held up to more than a moment's scrutiny.

It happened in Brunswick, GA, quite a distance from Atlanta.

don't even have the location right?

everything in Georgia is a suburb of Atlanta, everything in NY, CT and NJ is a suburb of NYC, if not in NYC, everything in Colorado is a suburb of Denver, etc.

which a family member of the suspect led the police to? Has ballistics come back on whether it is the murder weapon and how did it get into the hands of the suspect who apparently took it away with him.

Sound like I could b post partum depression. It had it with 2 daughters and I felt scary. I had a friend come stay for a few months to help me and spent 4 days in a facility. I wasn't trying to kill my baby, just super paranoid that something bad would happen. I'm glad they're investigating the parents still, the story never made sense.

spouting off the same lies about the two black kids and ignoring these new facts

one new story making the rounds is that the mother owed someone money for drugs and they sent the two boys to kill the baby over the debt

I'm waiting for the posts from radicals who at the time said, "IF ONLY THE MOTHER HAD A GUN, THE BABY WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY."

It turns out, mom did have a gun . . .

Mom was shot at close range.

Doesn't mean she didn't have a gun.

didn't prove he didn't have a gun.

The mother having gunpowder residue on her means absolutely nothing, since she was shot at close range. One would expect her to have gunpowder residue on her.

OR if they can flog the death of a child for racist reasons.

I wrote that the parents should be looked at first as suspects, as a matter of normal investigatory protocol, and DUers were disgusted with me. And some of us wondered why the baby had life insurance.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2571327

because they still sound like vicious jerks going after a crime victim. But DU has been overtaken by an "everything is a conspiracy" mindset.

While this is nothing new, it sickens me that people will accuse African Americans of brutal actions in order to cover up there own heinous crimes because on some level they know that a racist America is quick to believe it.There is a special place in hell who behave in this manner.

Sorry, I didn't click the link since I'm at work but I'll wait for others instead of this addictinginfo website.

The "new evidence" is ambiguous while some of the old evidence, while it may turn out to be false, isn't ambiguous.

There's always a risk with confirmation bias of being too willing to believe the ambiguous when it supports what you want to believe and discounting to the point of ignoring evidence that conflicts with your belief.

Even if it turns out that the father was recorded on tape at a shooting range 50 miles away and the Elkins' kid's weapon is a positive match to the gun used to kill the baby there will be people who will insist that the black kids must be innocent and it's all a set-up. Even were the kids to boast of the killing on a Youtube video it still wouldn't be enough to convince them.

Similarly, even if it turns out that there's no question that the parents did it--the kid's gun isn't a match, they're on tape doing something miles away and a gas station video camera clearly caught the two parents on tape shooting their own kid, there'll be tried-and-true racists convinced that *that* is a set-up.

....the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case.

The news story behind the Zimmerman case wasn't that someone of one race killed someone of another race.

Just because there was another instance where someone of one race killed someone of another race doesn't make it similar to the Zimmerman case.

The news story behind the Zimmerman case was that someone of one race killed someone of another race after exhibiting behavior consistent of racial profiling, and that his apparent aggressive behavior was shielded by a lax law authored by the NRA.

It was logically irrelevant before the debunking, except to Fox; now even more so that it's apparently fabricated.

GZ/TM. Some view this as a racist justification of a lying white Latino which entails an equally racist attempt to blame a black teenage male for attempted murder or actions that seemed to lead to accusations of attempted murder. In fact, the white Latino was guilty and the black teenage male was innocent.

In any event, it's an attack on the black community and an egregious example of racist bias in the denial of justice, punishing the murderer of a black teenage male.



Baby case: Some could view this as a racist justification of a lying white Latino which entails an equally racist attempt to blame two black teenage males for murder. In fact, the white Latinos are guilty and the black teenage males are innocent.

In any event, it's an attack on the black community and an egregious example of racist bias in the attempted denial of justice, which in this case is declaring two black teenage males innocent of the murder.

It has been used in news media and on social media and blogs to justify Zimmerman's suspicions of a young black man.

See? They are likely to be killers! Baby killers! No wonder Georgie had to shoot him--he was probably a baby killer just like these guys!

The link to all three cases (and many another) is that when a white "victim" points the finger at a young black man, the white accuser has a better chance of being believed than the black accused, especially in the court of public opinion.

That is what it has to do with the Zimmerman case. Belief. Belief that African-American males are presumed guilty of something, anything, until proven innocent. That is what the President tried to tell us.

witnesses, including someone else who was shot by the defendant two weeks earlier.

I would really hesitate to avoid making these defendants into Travyon II. Other than skin color, they have nothing in common with him.

There's nothing new in this story, the police still don't think either Sherry or Louis are suspects, coupled with the fact that a family member of the suspect led police to the gun is pretty damning.

My commentary, however, is on the false analogy is what has been offered by conservatives, which is that this case is somehow similar to the Zimmerman case because someone of one race allegedly killed someone of another race, but that the President and liberals don't care about this case because it was a white kid who died and not a black kid.

That's the narrative that the conservatives have offered.

that the murderers KNEW would work.

Various mobsters need an excuse as to why something went wrong; they all claim to have been jumped by 'black guys', although they use different slurs to describe them.

The primitive tribal medulla-oblongata computer leaps to embrace the outsider-attack narrative. It's how we're wired, but most people don't want to look down there.

The police are still saying that Sherry West is not a suspect, nor did I see anything indicating that the police view Louis as a suspect.
GSR is easily transferred from one person to another, which could have very well happened at the hospital from Sherry to Louis.

The damning evidence is that a family member led police to where the gun was thrown by one of the suspects.
Nothing new here.

father later in the day?

If I recall correctly, the aunt of one of the suspects informed on him and helped recover the murder weapon.

and I'm blown away to read the responses to it. This post without a doubt shows how low DU has sunk and puts us on par with the right wing sites and Facebook posts that are also exploiting the death of this baby. The amazing thing is DU'ers can't seem to see the exploitation themselves and instead are using it as a foil in their civil war on "racism".

The entire narrative has been wrong from the get go and even the location of the crime is inaccurate in both the right and left leaning narratives being put forth. There is no proof that the woman had her baby killed. The person that said that she had her baby killed is her disgruntled daughter. The police have found no evidence to support this. However, they did find the murder weapon and it was used previously by the same shooter to shoot another person in a robbery attempt.

This case and the Martin/Zimmerman case have nothing in common aside from the level of horrible violence sad human beings choose to inflict on others. There is no race issue here. It is sad and pathetic to see so many people at DU using this case to make a comparison and equally sad to see so many people so misinformed. If this is DU then we are truly fucked. RIP to little Antonio. It's one tragic thing to die so young with your whole life in front of you and another to be used after you are dead. How incredibly sad.

residue on her.

How often does that happen, except, always?

So disturbing to see this uninformed shit on DU.

TYY

I joined this place to discuss democratic ideals and strategies, instead I find junk like this?

cause you know, blaming a black guy for doing harm to a kid has never ever happened before

See: Michael Crowe, West Memohis Three, Kevin Fox, et alia.

Explain how that same gun was used to shoot another robbery victim 2 weeks earlier?

Sometimes it's exactly as it seems, and in this case, it seems to be exactly what's being reported.

the fact that the other kid shot someone during an armed robbery two weeks earlier is completely irrelevant, the shooter was found with .22 bullets on him, the mother was herself shot twice, means nothing to you.

But, you're ready to convict the mother because she has gunpowder residue on her, despite the fact that the presence of GSR only means she was around the gun when it went off?

Please don't complain about juror B37 ever.

Although many here seem to think so. Ignorance and evil don't differentiate when it comes to color. Random crimes take place the world over regardless of how one looks. My post isn't about racism actually. It's about exploitation of an innocent babies death on both sides.

The narrative that is being put forth is inaccurate and unfounded. You have no idea what color my skin may be. I think an intelligent person of any skin color would subscribe to my thinking.

The projection was interesting to say the least. Ya you got it right on the money. Some here cannot STAND it when you point out racism, I guess it disturbs their tiny little world and their beautiful minds.

emotional hoopla in hopes of distraction? My, how totally unoriginal. If THIS is what DU has become then I agree with you it is a sad and pathetic day for SOME.

...so .. you know, these guys have to let us know what's up /sarcasm

People going out of their way to concoct a story to fit what the scenario they wish had happened and blaming the victim to do so. B37 to a T.

(Sargasso tag)

... I believe August 19th.

I shouldn't be surprised that all this crap about the mother is surfacing again, prior to the trial. Such bullshit.

If you want to be informed on the details of this case, read the the story at the following link: http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Documents-Suspects-in-babys-murder-intended-to/8-dJYrcGe0e-PoQOPqMu2A.cspx#.Uaa_YhpXUuA.facebook

They've got all the evidence they need to get a conviction on that asshole and his partner that murdered an innocent baby in a stroller and the complicit family members who tried to hide the evidence.

TYY

...Zimmerman didn't you?

regards

did you read this thread.

The suspect's own aunt turned him in and helped recover the murder weapon.

The mother id'd the suspect in a line-up.

Looking for news report on that.

Do you mean GSR?
She was shot at close range, of course there would be GSR on her, that's a given.
The police still don't consider her or Louis suspects, they have the suspects in custody, they have the gun used by the suspect, they have eyewitness statements, what more do you want?

From what little I know of the Zim case, because I hardly followed it, it seems to me that he got away with it.

rob that woman and then we shot her baby."

Sometimes it's exactly what it seems to be, but some people just won't accept the damning evidence and have to throw out those conspiracy theories.

partisan, ethnic, racial, religious groups.

who has no idea what 'GPR' proves and doesn't prove.

Did he shoot himself?

They did use that event as support for their racist murdering brother in arms. No doubt they will conveniently ignore the fact that the parents did it and still blame it on those two black kids. Racists don't care for no stinking facts! Just ask the Zimmerman apologists.

One of them confessed to police.

Jesus?

gunpowder residue on him.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Documents-Suspects-in-babys-murder-intended-to/8-dJYrcGe0e-PoQOPqMu2A.cspx

Pretty incriminating stuff really, but you are free to assume whatever you want. The Zimmerman enablers sure do love them some racism.

Didn't you get the memo?

You replied to me, without provocation. Funny, so you are a Zimmerman apologist? How pathetic.

1) The mother was shot at close range. Twice. Once while struggling with a defendant for the gun. That's completely consistent with getting gunpowder residue on her, as any sentient being would understand.

But, don't take my word for it.

From that I read there was no one who witnessed the murder. Can you please link the source of the corroborating witnesses?

Zimmerman apologist! How pathetic is that!? What an ego that one has.

GT has been vocally anti-Zimmerman. You're talking out of your ass and owe GT a major apology for calling him/her a racist. That's fucked up.

To blame Geek Tragedy, of all people, of being a Zimmerman apologist.. next you'll have Hoyt painted as an NRA talking head.

Can you please link the source that indicated the teens admitted to the killing. Thank you in advance.

i wonder how many black teenagers have been interrogated by the police?