on a public road just to make Zimmerman look good?

Do you guys who believe this realize just how nutso this sounds?

Are there accident pics from the scene? Or was the whole thing a bs story?

unless on the movie set--BUT for Georgie Boy to be in the exact right place to do what he did... THAT is incredible luck or some how staged.

according to the police report. One of the 911 callers who had walked up next to the SUV while he was on the call, noted that the vehicle was on it's side, that four people climbed out and that a couple guys were there assisting them.

So this caller saw who these men were. Wonder who he is (his name and phone # were redacted) and if he knows that a controversy has arisen over whether or not Zimmerman was one of the assistants and, if so, how Zimmerman became aware of the accident?

Only the rescue needs to be staged. And it's becoming more and more apparent that the rescue WAS staged.

"Do you guys who believe this realize just how nutso this sounds?"

As nutso as a preposterous fairy tale about a killer sitting a jail cell who one morning decides to use a very poor secret code, worthy of little more than a third grader, and attempts to illegally transfer money donated to his defense fund into an offshore account with the help of his wife?

Sounds almost as nutso as that. Not quite... but almost.

Could have been as simple as Z being tipped off about an accident that happened near him; not that the whole entire episode was staged.

I think a little accident happened - but he had the right people in place to take ADVANTAGE of a simple car flip. His PR Team are the ones who made it seem like a scene from the movie Crash.

I know - but all of these 'newbies' who only joined to gloat about that maggot infested pig vomit killing Trayvon and getting away with it are using the 'staged' to paint those who smell pig vomit all over this story - as 'truthers'.

seem to not understand the point. Feeling uppity today so am starting to do that.

I don't think anyone who's car has ever flipped over would refer to it so dismissively.

In 1994. Coming off the 2nd Grand Island Bridge into Niagara Falls. All of us walked away, the Jimmy (an old type of SUV) got a little crackled on top, we had our seat belts on, and only one of us had a significant injurty - a broken collar bone.

My only 'danger' was the passenger side ended up about 6 inches from the Niagara River and I started to get out of the car - in January. My person explerience - it's not a big deal. Obviously wasn't for this family either or they would have been in the BURN unit and/or traction.

Why do you think O'Mara and/or West had the PR Firm release this story? I would think if there was a burning vehicle - an image of it 'burned' out would have gotten this splashed across the front pages. Sometimes you need a good visual to tell a story.


Anyways - they have to prove it was a really big deal to me. I don't believe it was a big deal at all. I'm more worried about all of us black folks losing our civil rights left and right than I am some maggot infested bucket of pig vomit like Georgie boy. Hopefully he's using this time to get in shape with his wife.

I doubt it's some big put-on.

Happened to be there - they would. See what I mean. 'Anyone'. Just a Joe Schmoe out and about.

Why - did HE need a press release from his legal team put out?

And it still isn't showing me a burned out vehicle. Either the press release got it wrong or the press got it wrong - but my money is the Press Release got it wrong. PR/Adv folks do it all of the time.

But me? I'm just anyone. When I do the right thing - I don't put out press releases about myself - and draw the people I help into a Press Conference.

The male 911 caller who walked up next to the SUV as the four occupants were climbing out with the assistance of a couple men said that he saw a little smoke coming from the vehicle and then said something that indicated it was nothing to be concerned about. The 'smoke' may have been just steam from the radiator or surface oil smoking on the hot engine.

If one is truly sorry, then don't say it.

There are at least 3 threads on the first page discussing this . . . and I am completely at a loss as to why.

n like information placed in 20 second soundbites we are going to see this "man" made out to be a hero.

surround the validity of the story - not the way it is being handled by the media

crew are so LOWDOWN to take advantage of a accident to look good is worse than the media letting this go on without it being exposed.

... then that is somehow a direct challenge to their beliefs about his guilt and culpability regarding the whole Martin fiasco....

There is also the need to keep momentum going against him (civil rights charges, financial charges, hate across the nation) and a positive story about him could stall that.

Is that what killing a kid is called these days?

You called it the Martin fiasco. I guess that is what killing a kid is called these days.

I'm really pretty happy with things either way so do whatever pleases you best.

We here are DU may not generally be aware of it, but I think much of the right feels itself to be on very shaky ground. They panic at any attempt to link them to domestic terrorists, racists, and psychopathic killers. And they tend to react not by dissociating themselves from these discreditable elements (which is what the left would do in an equivalent situation) but by playing the victim card and claiming they are being insulted or discriminated against.

The Trayvon Martin case is currently a right-wing panic point. I think it's significant that former FBI snitch Brandon Darby has been seen lurking around Justice for Trayvon rallies. Darby and a another right-winger named Lee Stranahan were behind the "Occupy Unmasked" film done last year for the Andrew Breitbart operation that attempted to smear the Occupy movement by interviewing any fringe crazies they could find at the occupations, highlighting any rapes that had occurred at or even near the camps, and blaming the whole thing on ACORN.

Stranahan has already involved himself in the Trayvon Martin case. He's the person who first publically revealed the identity of Zimmerman's cousin who said he had molested her as a child. And he's been posting anti-Trayvon comments on blogs that follow the case. So I think there's every likelihood that he and Darby are involved in a well-funded effort to smear the Justice for Trayvon movement -- and that any attempt to rehabilitate Zimmerman has to be considered as the other side of that effort.

This is not a trivial matter. Remember that Stand Your Ground laws are high on ALEC's wishlist. I've suggested previously that this is because they're part of a radical pro-private property agenda that values property over human life. But I think it's also that the 1% have a guilty sense that if they push the people who own nothing far enough there will be a day of reckoning -- and they mean to have plenty of guns and the legal authorization to use them when the hungry mobs invade their palatial estates.

People who feel morally secure -- like most of the left -- don't have those sort of fantasies. People who know they are morally unfounded have them all the time, and they do their best to preemptively head off being held accountable. And this is why they have to prove George Zimmerman is really a kind-hearted protector of the innocent and not a cold-blooded killer.

It helps to study the human psyche and understand who and what people are, what motivates them, and what agenda they might have. Sometimes it helps to shed light on the "why" when you connect the dots on the "who" and the "what."

You've got a book there, ya know.

Or at least a damn good article.

Even if something similar has already appeared in WSWS or somewhere, it oughtta get spread around a lot further. The Progressive, The Nation....

The point, to me at least, is that if the staging story is true, then the discovery that there are people willing to stage something like this is the real story.

not so much the accident itself. My antenna went up when it was the Seminole County Sheriff's Office, Sanford Police, issued a press statement about it naming Zimmerman. One has to question whether they issue a press statement on every accident (I'm not talking about a police report) where someone helped? I suspect they do not.

The timing of the press statement was interesting as well, almost a week after the accident and the Monday after the Trayvon Martin rallies.

Add to that the news of the upcoming press conference by the family, to be held in Mark O'Mara's office, Zimmerman's defense attorney's office, and then cancelled. Equally interesting, it was the family that called O'Mara saying they wanted to go to the press. Why call O'Mara and not the media (Orlando Sentinel for example)?

Lots of questions on this, imo, leaving aside the accident itself.

at this point, I barely doubt it

“Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after making contact with the deputy,” Smith said. “There were no report of injuries to the vehicle occupants.”
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Regarding details of the accident, the sheriffs office told WND the 2004 Ford Explorer SUV was traveling northbound on the off ramp of State Road 417 at State Road 400. Mark Gerstle then lost control of the vehicle, causing it to go off road and roll over. The tires and brakes were not worn and were not an influence in the accident. The vehicle also did not have any airbag deployment. No photos of the vehicle are available.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/07/zimmerman-accused-of-causing-accident-for-rescue/

Here are some photos of Ford Explorer rollover accidents:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=855&q=ford+explorer+rollover&oq=ford+explorer+rollover&gs_l=img.12..0j0i24l9.976.13032.0.15484.22.14.0.8.8.0.122.1210.13j1.14.0....0...1ac.1.22.img..0.22.1351.AdhyhH_Zs10#hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=ford+explorer+rollover+accident&oq=ford+explorer+rollover+accident&gs_l=img.12..0i24.9434.11049.0.12399.9.2.0.7.7.0.103.180.1j1.2.0....0...1c.1.22.img..0.9.210.BIsMYOAyeVE&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.49784469,d.cGE&fp=67c93d0afb1e098c&biw=1280&bih=855

Thank God no one was hurt, but I'd like to see a liability lawsuit.

use World Nut Daily as a source?

Did you read that shit? The comments? WTF?!?

And I figured that it couldn't possibly be slanted to the left.

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Would "staging" this event make people who think he was innocent like him any more?

Would it make people who think he was guiltyhate him any less?

Would it make people who dropped this story as soon as the trial ended pay more attention to him than they do with the Royal Baby?

But at least outside of DU - this is now a non-starter. Baby George just killed his 'big PR stunt' by O'Mara.

you know, when he's not targeting / stalking / murdering them

Rollovers are commonly the greatest vehicular causes of head injuries and ejections in traffic collisions. They can also lead to abrasions, bruising, burns, concussions, crush injuries, dislocations, fractures, and lacerations. Rollovers are also a cause of severe whiplash.
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Rollovers are incredibly dangerous and lead to more fatalities than almost any other types of traffic violations. In 2002, there were almost 11 million traffic collisions reported in the U.S., as per the NHTSA. While only 3 percent of those collisions involved a rollover, they accounted for more than 33 percent of traffic fatalities that year. More than 10,000 people died because of vehicle rollovers, and 72 percent of them neglected to wear their seatbelts.
http://www.injuryinformation.com/accidents/suv-rollovers.php

I am making a funny!

The fish is really startin to stink on this one.

did not receive any injuries while committing the murder, but rather was protected by his friend on Sanford's police force who 'roughed him up' after the murder. Just my opinion, not trying to enrage anyone.

Super George!!!!!!! Saves a family from certain undeath. Forces death on young black teens What freaking hero.

Sometimes things just happen. He's not running for office or anything and there's just no solid reason anyone would suggest he do this or help him do it.

Now Cory Booker, that guy I wonder about.

Never shot someone in the chest because he thought he was a no-goodnik up to no good. There's a big difference in terms of their background. George is definitely on his way up though. I've got a feeling he is going to turn this into a gold mine amongst the Right Wing Wingnut Set.

And nope - not voting for him (Booker) in the Primary next month - this vote belongs to Pallone.

Rumor has it that GeeZee's getting $25K speaking fees at gun shows.
Have no proof, just rumor at this time. But, I would like to it verified.

I think this may have something to do with an impending civil suit.
Making him look good can only help.

For perjury charges is either the 2nd or 3rd week of August. I would think they would want to stay pretty low profile until that time.

Sanford police and requested that the evidence in the murder case against George Zimmerman be turned over to them, indicating that the DOJ had decided to closely study the case for a potential civil rights violation (Sanford police confirmed this to the media the next day).

That same evening, Mark Gerstle tells a Fire and Rescue officer at the scene of his accident that George Zimmerman had assisted him while he climbed out of his SUV that had tipped over on its side, after he lost control of it going down a freeway off-ramp.

Zimmerman and his wife also have other legal issues to still contend with: lying to the court at a bail hearing about their income and hiding the existence of George's valid second passport.

Those issues, and an intense effort by George's family members to rehabilitate the Zimmerman name, are solid reasons for why an opportunistic PR stunt involving the appearance of George Zimmerman at an accident scene might have been engineered.

There's no legal precedent for "I helped a guy, so drop the charges."

There's plenty of potential, on the other hand, for the stunt to backfire, in which case GZ looks like a complete moron and gets another pile of charges. It's a piss-poor theory.

Zimmy and Vladdy Putin have the same publicist.

You can take it to the bank that this story is BULLSHIT!