I Don't want Quinn because she is a 4th Bloomberg term.

voting for? I saw him on one of the shows on MSNBC and he seemed credible and he was the Democratic choice to run against Bloomberg in 2009.

From what I have read, he seems to be someone to consider but I'm looking in from the outside.

Weiner. He is looking better every day to me.

to me but it's good to hear that from someone who would know much better than I.

mayors race and he almost beat Bloomberg on election night. If they had put money in his campaign he could have won. People blame him but I don't.

that he would be an excellent candidate to put their support behind this time. Seeing as Weiner's support has dropped precipitously in the poll taken after the latest revelation, this article giving Thompson the lead in any runoff seem much more likely, imo.

"NEW YORK (WABC) -- A new poll puts former City Comptroller and 2009 mayoral challenger Bill Thompson in the lead among likely Democratic voters in the race for New York City Mayor.

Thompson leads over City Council Speaker Christine Quinn and former U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner in the mayoral primary runoff - if Thompson can make it to the runoff - according to the Quinnipiac University poll released on Wednesday.

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If Weiner stays in, he has 26 percent in the first round of the Democratic primary, with 22 percent for Quinn and 20 percent for Thompson. de Blasio is at 15 percent with 7 percent for Liu, 1 percent for former Council member Sal Albanese and 8 percent undecided.

In a Democratic primary runoff, however, Thompson tops Weiner 52 - 41 percent and leads Quinn 51 - 42 percent. A Weiner-Quinn runoff is tied with 46 percent for Quinn and 44 percent for Weiner."

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/politics&id=9183656

The aggressive era of stop-and-frisk policing in New York City is, in every sense of the word, on trial: the subject of a high-stakes federal court case, scorching denunciations from civil rights leaders and emotional calls for its dismantlement by liberal lawmakers.

But in a stand that is surprising black leaders and worrying some allies, William C. Thompson Jr., the sole African-American candidate for mayor, is steadfastly unwilling to join the tear-it-down chorus.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/nyregion/william-c-thompson-jr-takes-moderate-stand-on-police-stops.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0#h[]

to the New York Times:

NYC mayoral candidate Thompson criticizes NYPD chief Kelly for Homeland Security role

"Thompson said the police commissioner’s status as the “architect” of stop-and-frisk policing should raise “serious concerns for anyone being considered for such a sensitive post” despite the “great work” the Kelly-led NYPD has done bringing down crime and combating terrorism.

President Barack Obama should think twice about naming top NYPD cop Raymond Kelly to head the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, New York City mayoral hopeful William Thompson said Monday."

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-thompson-criticizes-nypd-chief-kelly-homeland-security-article-1.1406333

It doesn't sound like Thompson is favoring either Kelly or his "stop-and-frisk" policing.

The article I linked to was from yesterday.

seeing as he has expressed his concern about Kelly because of his "stop-and-frisk" policy.

I hope NY Dems choose him as their candidate, I love what I have read about his position on education, it is clearly one of his passions.

she doesn't win the runoff. a very good chance. Weiner's exit paves the way for mr 'someone get the man a red-bull' thompson, and you see how hard he kills her in a runoff.

to Lord Bloombergs will. With Weiner in the runoff now it becomes about him.

you have either Bill being compossed, experienced and moral, next to a politicking tantrum throwing sell out. Who wins.

i'm okay if weiner stays in just a bit more while people adjust to the other guys so they have somewhere to move.

Either way, she's going down as soon as Weiner gets out. the only reason his being in the race is really a problem is beause 50%+ of his voters aren't going to budge. if he had softer support he could stay in and i wouldn't be too worried about it. And if he leaves, people are basically choosing btwn BdB and BT.

photos and texts? a 2nd time? i think he has a deficit somewhere.

The question is who are they going to sell their story to? When are the texts and pictures coming out?

What has Weiner ever done that qualifies him to be Mayor of NYC? He's a disgusting little twerp, who needs to just go away.

Why is she making the world cringe in pity and wonder? Truly, Anthony Weiner is not worth this agita.

and it doesn't always go "oh, i'm leaving you!" and you slam the door. And when you marry someone they are your family, you don't just bounce at the very time they fuck up and things falls apart. More likely she has a lot to deal with right now and she's not going to just run. So for starters, believe it or not, people fuck up in crazy ways and the person who promised to be there for them the most doesn't just drop them and go.

Weiner "cred" he hasn't earned with the public (and should have squandered with her). She's diminished herslef in my eyes, by taking on this public humiliation - and insisting to the public, it's all okay now.

She looks shocked, humiliated, perhaps confused. They need to get off the public stage and work this out. They have no public office to salvage. Perhaps they can salvage the marriage and family, if that is what they choose.

Go home, Huma - and drag Weiner with you.

which is what i mean by he might surprise you, he's more politically adept than he lets on.

and he has a much stronger presence than thompson, when you are presented with them side by side, he's much more dynamic.

DeBlasio hasn't shown any sign of getting his support above 15%.

what happens. the quinnipac poll iirc had thompson getting more support from weiner supporters than blasio would, but blasio also had more people who don't know him, so the more people know blasio exists and he will gain more of weiner's support. when quinn loses support it will go to thompson b/c soft quinn supporters are lazy and risk averse, but weiner supporters may like men who are more agressive in politics, like myself.

he just needs to pivot out of this advocate campaign.

look at this list of all the polls, he and Thompson poll almost the same since the beginning, 20% more people know who thompson is, which is the only reason he's ever been above 15 and he's only done that once.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2013/other/ny/new_york_city_mayor_democratic_primary-3741.html#polls

people!!

1) loss of potential voter support
2) loss of donors to keep campaign viable.


One of the problems is the timing. If Weiner had just stopped when he was caught the first time, he'd have just as good a shot as Mark Sanford. But he kept on. And people have a timeline: this Carlos Danger bit was after his son was born, the People Magazine feature story, etc.

I don't live in NYC, but he'd have my vote if I did. I remember AW on the floor of the House, giving the republicans holy hell. I think he'd advocate for the middle class and the poor as mayor and institute some critical policies.

And I suppose that if NYC-ers gave Giuliani the business for announcing his sexual wanderings, they would do the same in this situation.

What I don't get is how something private like this invalidates a candidate's potential to do some real good in office. I don't buy Weiner's "poor judgment" because when you're mayor, you have advisors and the City Council and your judgment doesn't necessarily carry the day (unless you have billions of dollars like Bloomberg).

legislative leadership? Bzzzt. Amendments a la Bernie? Bzzt. Support of the settler movement in Israel? Why yes.

He was always a fake asswipe and I NEVER would have voted for him. fuck him.

Because he is showing impaired judgement.
Just like Bush's chemical use was a problematic factor, or Reagan's dementia, or Nixon's heavy drinking.
In Weiner's case, he shows signs of sex addiction.
Which means it is complulsive.
Same thing that got Schwarzenegger in trouble.

Anyone in their right mind would have stopped after the first public outcry. He did not. He could not.

The most significant group of symptoms not EVERY symptom has to be present, but notice how many ARE, in his case)

a dysfunctional preoccupation with sexual fantasy,
often in combination with the obsessive pursuit of casual or non-intimate sex;
pornography;
compulsive masturbation;
romantic intensity and objectified partner sex for a period of at least six months.

By definition, this adult obsessive pattern of thoughts and behaviors will continue despite:

Attempts made to self-correct problematic sexual behavior
Promises made to self and others toward sexual behavior change
Significant, directly related negative life consequences in life and relationship stability,
emotional and physical health concerns,
or career and legal problems.
http://psychcentral.com/lib/hypersexuality-symptoms-of-sexual-addiction/00011488

Important: Bi-polar disorder and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder also can have a sexual acting out component, and should be ruled out by a professional exam.

and many who won't.

Not only have I never tweeted my genitals, I've never had anyone else tweet theirs to me, either...

I guess I'm missing out on something? Is this something everyone does?

"It's not like it was dozens and dozens".

Boy, that sounds great. He only exposed himself to two handfuls of women, not "dozens and dozens" of them. I'm impressed by his restraint.

Even for politicians.

nt

People will forgive an honest mistake. You thought the action was the right one, and you were wrong. People will forgive a screw up. You had an affair, and you deeply regret it, and apologize etc. But they won't forgive you doing it again. You get one screw up of that nature, and you don't get another.

People are less likely to forgive calculated actions, and the problem is that he was doing the same shit all over again. Then he tried to cover it up, and promise the girl an apartment in Chicago if she'd delete everything and play along nicely. The screw up is one thing, an honest mistake, another situation entirely. But to try and cover up a screw up is nearly unforgivable.

are we to not hold a mayoral candidate to the same standards as Pee Wee Herman?

he was viewed as 'no longer fit' for roles like this

they got used to the inner circle and power and now have to deal with a cold bucket of water.

they figured, if Big Dawg got away with it..


or more likely it was just chutzpah and wanting to keep going since they have $$ to spend

there is always the risk, of going over it

what bill did was just slightly less creepy, and slightly more normal, and he was FAR more skilled, in handling it...oh, and bill didnt have a surname that gave a punch to the story

you can help me put a finger on it, this just seems a little more gross?

Many people have sent hot pics over the phone to people. that part isn't gross.

bill cheated, it was f'd up, but just feels different than this.

i can't put my finger on what is so creepy about weiner here. Right? it's weird.

most importantly, Bill had his dalliences with a real girl, in person. that sort of thing has been going on with leaders for centuries, if not millenia

'sexting' behavior, however, has a very short history, and whether or not otherwise 'normal' people now engage in it, weiner is the first or one of the first to have to explain himself for it, as a politician - and he has a surname that is a synonym for 'penis', which doesnt help

and it's a behavior that has it's root in a guy in a trenchcoat suddenly opening up his coat for thrills to strangers, or hanging out at adult book stores

there's no known history of finding out someone does that and having others say 'aside from that, he's a great guy and i really respect him' just no template for that

lastly. bills responses were decisive and manly, (if dishonest). a strong defiant denial, and later a 'ok, lets get this overwith' explanation. and most importantly, after being exposed doing that as president, he didnt get caught again

weiners responses were

1) 2nd offense in a short period of time, undoing completely the credibility of his past explanations

2) repetative and rambling, completely unprepared, NOBODY with any skill would have coached the performace that way

3) poorly timed and unmanaged, shoes just dropping all over the campaign

he did not get a blow job. it is not financial misdeeds. we are not married to him. america is still puritanically stupid.

request it, can you explain to me how his flashing, using twitter, etc., is any different than the old-fashioned flasher with the raincoat open to expose his junk? One is illegal, the other is not, I wonder why?

supposed to do.

Flashing your dick online is just juvenile, he looks like an immature fool. I think he chose online because he *didn't* want to cheat on his wife, but what he did was not only juvenile but it speaks to a sort of strange desperation to be validated b/c the risk is so great. have phone sex and call it a night, but don't be so dumb to put your junk online, not 1, but TWICE.

I'm sure many of here send bare pics online, and probably quite a few who are in a relationship, but we're not pols who are going to have those pictures eventually show up all over the internet. and if we were and had it happened how many are dumb enough to do it again and drag us all through this f'g juvenile drama all over again.

he's acting like a child. and it's become very hard to take him seriously. with clinton, that is a serious dude, yeah he diddled an intern but he would never have put his junk online. NEVER. He at least had enough self control to not be that dumb.

ya know?

to multiple women after tweeting your business to multiple women cost you your Congressional seat, politics is not for you. No one says that he has to be a saint, or puritanical, but to be a politician, you have to have some damn decorum, and he has NONE. There are plenty of careers he could choose, it's just life as a high-profile public servant isn't for him.

Vitter was re-elected and Governor Appalachian Trail was elected to the House.

This has to do with optics- no pun- on several different level. Weiner made himself a pathetic joke and people responded to that with derision.

Is since he's so proud of his penis, that should be his profile picture from now on. He thinks everyone wants to see his junk.

...but I have to give the guy credit for being totally feckless and keeping on keeping on, but I don't think he has an alternative. This dude's narcissism is what drives him...it's what led him to run for office...the need to be wanted and admired. This also ties over to his Carlos Danger personna...wanting that same "adoration" for his sexual prowess as he tries to convince New York City voters with his chutzpah. It shows me he has little else going on in his life. Without political office, he isn't complete...he needs this election to vindicate his ego just as much as Carlos Danger needed to seduce women online to prove his manhood. A sad personal tragedy playing out for all to see...and ridicule.

I expect Weiner will "stick it out"...(sorry, you just can't escape the bad puns with this story, no matter how one tries) but the circus of the past couple days all but ended people taking him as a serious candidate. The real battle Anthony Weiner faces is about to happen...realizing he's his own worst enemy...

I remember hearing Joe Biden when he ran for president.

He was talking about healthcare, and slipping in that he knew how people felt, mentioning his brain annurism in 1988

to the casual listener, he was showing (sincere) empathy. but to the carefull listener he was also saying 'ok, this is an issue, i'm going to be the first to mention it, and get it overwith - i'm not hiding this, or hoping everyone forgot'

he managed the issue like a pro - he controled the drop of that shoe

weiener handled the issue like a child

I can hardly believe a person with such an ego and sexual perversion exists, let alone that he's named Weiner.

without them he's nothing

and his ties to them help people remember bills problem of 1998, which could hurt a hillary 2016 run

if they said 'you can bow out gracefully now, and keep this relationship, or you can stay in and lose anyway, along with everything else', it would be an offer he couldnt refuse

Bill and Hillary, even without any future runs, have the titles of Gov, President, Senator and Secretary of State between them for prestige

why squander it on a loser like weiner?

told their friends it was okay to give him money, they weren't helping him much more than that.

Shrinkage?

So all those defending Weiner saying let the voters decide.. well it seems the voters have just about decided.. and they have decided he's a turd.

in the first place, or why he'd even be seriously considered. His hubris and arrogance are unbelievable, even for a politician.

does he just look freakin' smarmy. i remember the first time i ever saw him speak in front of congress just being..kinda grossed out or something. lol. never liked him.

Like a frightened turtle...