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dbackjon

(6,578 posts) Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:14 PM Jul 2013

There is a thread in LBN about Lindsey Graham/Iran that is doubly sickening

First, that Graham wants to use force in Iran.

Second, the large number of DU'ers that refer to Graham as either gay, or a woman.

The homophobia on DU has not gone away - disgusting that a so-called progressive site stoops so low.

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There is a thread in LBN about Lindsey Graham/Iran that is doubly sickening (Original Post) dbackjon Jul 2013 OP

I just scanned the posts and didn't see any, could you provide a linky? snooper2 Jul 2013 #1

Here you go dbackjon Jul 2013 #2

Stephen Colbert calls him a lesbian, on his show. Gregorian Jul 2013 #3

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #4

I'd say that response was pretty abusive. Gregorian Jul 2013 #9

Then YOU need to take a good look dbackjon Jul 2013 #10

Which thread? I only see one that doesn't have much to do with what we're talking about. Gregorian Jul 2013 #13

If I see some one jump off a bridge, I for one am not going to follow. William769 Jul 2013 #15

Yes- think for yourself. Gregorian Jul 2013 #17

Ladylips...Ms. Graham...closet case. The Link Jul 2013 #5

Referring to Graham as "her" dbackjon Jul 2013 #6

Yeah. Not surprising. The Link Jul 2013 #7

This kind of thing is practically a DU tradition, QC Jul 2013 #14

Effeminate homophobes are hilarious Mopar151 Jul 2013 #8

Lindsey Graham is a jackass... But you must realize that what you are observing is hlthe2b Jul 2013 #11

Well without a weiner this will go nowhere we can do it Jul 2013 #12

Thread Win!!! denbot Jul 2013 #27

! we can do it Jul 2013 #29

He is a piece of work....how he holds his head together is beyond KoKo Jul 2013 #16

I see some got nuked for their comments! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #18

I sat a jury earlier for one of the homophobic posts LadyHawkAZ Jul 2013 #19

Yeah there have been a few bad juries! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #21

That happens a lot, as every long time LGBT DUer is sadly and acutely aware. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #23

I got a post hidden for saying "fuck Ron Paul." geek tragedy Jul 2013 #25

There oare over 60 responses, but I saw only two that were cali Jul 2013 #20

At least one got eaten by Otto LadyHawkAZ Jul 2013 #22

Usually it isn't so open, but it crops up from time to time. Behind the Aegis Jul 2013 #24

Four jurors agreed with me to hide that post: freshwest Jul 2013 #26

Much animosity against Graham from repubs in SC. Skip Intro Jul 2013 #28

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

1. I just scanned the posts and didn't see any, could you provide a linky?

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:17 PM

Jul 2013

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)

2. Here you go

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:19 PM

Jul 2013

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=547568

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

3. Stephen Colbert calls him a lesbian, on his show.

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:22 PM

Jul 2013

And it's funny to a whole bunch of people.

Response to Gregorian (Reply #3)

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Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

9. I'd say that response was pretty abusive.

Reply to Post removed (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:43 PM

Jul 2013

Take a good look at yourself. And don't judge me for simply relaying what I've seen. I'm probably a lot more on your side than you realize.

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)

10. Then YOU need to take a good look

Reply to Gregorian (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:49 PM

Jul 2013

ANd figure out why LGBT's get so angry at this.

While your at it, read DonRedwood's latest thread.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

13. Which thread? I only see one that doesn't have much to do with what we're talking about.

Reply to dbackjon (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:12 PM

Jul 2013

I'm a pretty sensitive person. I've spent much of my life being kicked around. I can't put it into words. I've tried, and just erased it. I have a feeling I can't come out well in this thread. But if you knew me you'd realize I'm not the kind to create friction. Just the opposite. And to my own demise.

William769

(55,147 posts)

15. If I see some one jump off a bridge, I for one am not going to follow.

Reply to Gregorian (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 07:15 PM

Jul 2013

Get it?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

17. Yes- think for yourself.

Reply to William769 (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:22 AM

Jul 2013

I'll admit I thought it was odd when I heard Colbert say it. I'm surprised because they're a very bright group of people. I see your point. That doesn't make it right. I'm sensitive in many ways, but even I can be insensitive.

The Link

(757 posts)

5. Ladylips...Ms. Graham...closet case.

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:27 PM

Jul 2013

Yeah. I see what you mean.

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)

6. Referring to Graham as "her"

Reply to The Link (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:30 PM

Jul 2013

Several others as well in there.

The Link

(757 posts)

7. Yeah. Not surprising.

Reply to dbackjon (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:37 PM

Jul 2013

QC

(26,371 posts)

14. This kind of thing is practically a DU tradition,

Reply to The Link (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 04:41 PM

Jul 2013

and hey, anything that three random people are willing to overlook is now progressive, so why not?

Mopar151

(9,990 posts)

8. Effeminate homophobes are hilarious

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:40 PM

Jul 2013

and scary, all at once - Pat Robertson comes to mind.

hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)

11. Lindsey Graham is a jackass... But you must realize that what you are observing is

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:52 PM

Jul 2013

not only homophobic, but misogynistic.... Both frequently go hand in hand.... Despite the loud protests from some here, misogyny is alive and well on DU and quite often is either behind or strongly accompanies the homophobia.

Both need to be addressed on DU.

we can do it

(12,189 posts)

12. Well without a weiner this will go nowhere

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:59 PM

Jul 2013

denbot

(9,900 posts)

27. Thread Win!!!

Reply to we can do it (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:06 PM

Jul 2013

Pick up your prize at the door.

we can do it

(12,189 posts)

29. !

Reply to denbot (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:31 PM

Jul 2013

KoKo

(84,711 posts)

16. He is a piece of work....how he holds his head together is beyond

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 07:41 PM

Jul 2013

my comprehension. Talk about SELL OUT...or PAID OFF! Sheesh...

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

18. I see some got nuked for their comments!

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:23 AM

Jul 2013

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)

19. I sat a jury earlier for one of the homophobic posts

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:28 AM

Jul 2013

from a now-nuked poster. I truly expected a 6-0 hide, instead it came back a 3-3 leave.

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

21. Yeah there have been a few bad juries!

Reply to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:35 AM

Jul 2013

Oh well!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)

23. That happens a lot, as every long time LGBT DUer is sadly and acutely aware. nt

Reply to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 07:16 PM

Jul 2013

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

25. I got a post hidden for saying "fuck Ron Paul."

Reply to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:02 AM

Jul 2013

Juries still suck as often as they don't.

cali

(114,904 posts)

20. There oare over 60 responses, but I saw only two that were

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:32 AM

Jul 2013

objectionable. the first one where the poster referred to him as Ms, was challenged. It should be hidden. The second was the one about how he didn't have to worry about his kids and grandkids because he'd never been married and is a "gentleman", was also objectionable but I doubt most juries would vote to hide.

Two is too many but it is not a large number. It's 2 out of dozens. Yes, there's still homophobia and sexism here, but it's diminished a lot.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)

22. At least one got eaten by Otto

Reply to cali (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 12:44 AM

Jul 2013

after this OP was posted.

Behind the Aegis

(53,962 posts)

24. Usually it isn't so open, but it crops up from time to time.

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 01:58 AM

Jul 2013

Personally, I dislike anytime GLBT issues are brought up in regards to certain topics, then we get shit all over (Iran, Russia, hate crimes, as examples).

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

26. Four jurors agreed with me to hide that post:

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:46 PM

Jul 2013

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

There are plenty of ways to bash Lindsey Graham without resorting to homophobic slurs.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Jul 25, 2013, 10:52 AM, and the Jury voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: play nice or play elsewhere
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Obviously over the line. Hide it.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Agree with that objection. Graham is a typically despicable republican but I'd thought DU was through with homophobic (or transphobic etc) slurs since people were told to cut out the "Mann Coulter' etc type of garbage.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: Why someone would think that's ok is beyond me. It should be looked at if someone like that really belongs here.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: So a simple fuck you Graham cracker would be OK? All in or out, no middle ground here. I'm in, noting to see here move along.

Everyone but Juror #6 got it and expressed themselves well. Sorry some are making you feel unwelcome. I don't feel welcome myself. Hope the hide speaks for the majority of DUers.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)

28. Much animosity against Graham from repubs in SC.

Reply to dbackjon (Original post)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:15 PM

Jul 2013

I get a somewhat inside scoop from a friend who is active in the Libertarian insurgence in the repub party. There will be a serious primary challenger to Graham. He appears very vulnerable from where I sit.

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