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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:38 PM Jul 2013

About that story where the mother supposedly killed her baby and framed two black kids

Um, not so much.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Documents-Suspects-in-babys-murder-intended-to/8-dJYrcGe0e-PoQOPqMu2A.cspx#.Uaa_YhpXUuA.facebook

A few minutes later, Lang said DeMarquise showed a revolver with a brown wooden handle that he had hidden in his waistband.

According to the affidavit, the two walked along Ellis Street when DeMarquise said, "There goes a lady."

The lady happened to be Sherry West, who was pushing her son in a baby stroller, just a few yards from their home.

The two boys walked up to West when DeMarquise ordered the woman to give up her purse. West said no, and according to Lang, that's when DeMarquise pulled out the revolver, aimed it at West, and hit her with it. The two then struggled when the gun went off twice, according to Lang. The second shot hit West in her leg.

Lang told detectives DeMarquise then said toWest, "Give me your purse or I am going to shoot your baby."

DeMarquise, according to Lang's interview with detectives, aimed the revolver at the stroller and pulled the trigger.



Also, keep in mind that gunpowder residue would be expected to be found on someone close to a gun when a bullet is fired (as the mother was) and that it can easily get transferred from one person to another. What is getting people going are leaks from the defense.

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About that story where the mother supposedly killed her baby and framed two black kids (Original Post) geek tragedy Jul 2013 OP
Two month old link from Jacksonville TV station on event that happened in Brunswick... onehandle Jul 2013 #1
Jacksonville is much closer to Brunswick than Atlanta is. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #2
Most of the stories at the time were from Atlanta, so I remembered it wrong. onehandle Jul 2013 #3
It's a news story based on court documents. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #4
It won't matter. Igel Jul 2013 #5
Useful to have the links to remind people of the facts, regardless of what geek tragedy Jul 2013 #6
I think the mother is suspicious and always did from the beginning. kcr Jul 2013 #7
Even though one of the two defendants' corroboratd her story? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #8
Yep. kcr Jul 2013 #9
Ugh. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #11
and the aunt of the suspect informed on him? And the mother id's the suspect KittyWampus Jul 2013 #10
Yes. Yes. Yes. kcr Jul 2013 #12
she fingers "him". It was a line-up. She just got lucky and picked the right guy? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #13
Right. They're arrested after she IDs them. kcr Jul 2013 #19
So, you're just going to ignore or dismiss all of the evidence against geek tragedy Jul 2013 #14
No. I'm simply not completely convinced of the guilt of the supsects kcr Jul 2013 #20
The aunt of the shooter also led police to the murder weapon. tumtum Jul 2013 #18
She led them to a weapon. kcr Jul 2013 #21
I'll have to find the story, tumtum Jul 2013 #22
What?!?!? She fucking pulled a "Susan Smith"!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #15
No, she did not pull a Susan Smith. That is simply not true. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #16
Well, maybe I misread the story. Let me try again... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #17

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Two month old link from Jacksonville TV station on event that happened in Brunswick...
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

... that you got from wingers passing it around on Facebook ...ok....

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Jacksonville is much closer to Brunswick than Atlanta is.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jul 2013

Go ahead and check Google Maps if you don't believe me.



And one of the two perps admitting to the crime is more compelling than this "the victim had gunpowder residue on her" crapola.

So, sorry the facts dont' fit the talking points. These kids aren't Trayvon--they're much worse than George Zimmerman.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. Most of the stories at the time were from Atlanta, so I remembered it wrong.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:50 PM
Jul 2013

Still an old crap link being passed around by the right.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. It's a news story based on court documents.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jul 2013

Again, just because it undercuts your argument doesn't make it false.

The affidavit and application for a search warrant showed Takesha Elkins, DeMarquise's aunt, told police that the 17-year-old came to her house after the shooting incident wearing a red shirt. She said he made comments about the shooting. She asked him how he knew. DeMarquise, according to Elkins, said he was at the scene and talked to a police officer who said a baby had been shot in the face.

Police found a black hooded sweatshirt and ammunition in Lang's home, and another black hooded sweatshirt in his grandmother's house. Authorities also recovered ammo, cell phones, computer equipment and a red sweatshirt from the homes of his aunts, Takesha and Katrina Elkins.

When DeMarquise was arrested, police found two .22 caliber rounds in his front left pocket.



Igel

(35,320 posts)
5. It won't matter.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

Many have decided. They just needed something to tell them they were right all along.

It's like belief in God. You pray and ask for things 200 times. You already believed or else you wouldn't be praying. When that 200th request comes true, that's it--your belief is validated, confirmed in spades.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Useful to have the links to remind people of the facts, regardless of what
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jul 2013

they happen to read that morning on a random internet site.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
12. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jul 2013

Aunt is mistaken, thinking police will sort it all out. If mother is guilty, of course she's fingers him. IT's entirely possible she's guitly even under those circumstances.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
13. she fingers "him". It was a line-up. She just got lucky and picked the right guy?
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jul 2013

And the aunt helped recover the gun.

And the suspect shot someone previously in a robbery.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
19. Right. They're arrested after she IDs them.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jul 2013

If she's the one who did it, she could easily just randomly pick someone and say "Yeah, that's him!" Just because it's someone with a record doesn't mean anything. In fact, it's probably likely given the police will probably pick people with records for the lineup.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. So, you're just going to ignore or dismiss all of the evidence against
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jul 2013

the perps and instead focus on meaningless, irrelevant bullshit like someone who's shot at close range having gunpowder residue on her?

kcr

(15,317 posts)
20. No. I'm simply not completely convinced of the guilt of the supsects
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jul 2013

I'm not dismissing anything that points to any other possibilities. I think the mother is suspicious. I dont' think it's a given the suspects are guilty. Sorry.

 

tumtum

(438 posts)
22. I'll have to find the story,
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013

but I do remember reading that the police linked the .22 to the murder and also to an attempted armed robbery of a person 2 weeks earlier.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. What?!?!? She fucking pulled a "Susan Smith"!!!
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jul 2013

For the youngsters who don't remember the Susan Smith story, she was a white woman who blamed a black man for killing her two children by tying them up in the backseat of her car and pushing the car off the cliff. As a result, several black men were wrongly profiled and arrested because of it. Turns out, she was the perpetrator who knew that people would believe it she blamed the murder of her children on a black guy.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/06/us/a-woman-s-false-accusation-pains-many-blacks.html

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theroot.com%2Fmultimedia%2Frush-judgment&ei=fXPxUdiUOKrE4APPpIDABg&usg=AFQjCNEilCZ6swP54j_Ph0gwRILxMfAUug&sig2=A1IXfGUuT1oBQXNXKHkeKg

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. No, she did not pull a Susan Smith. That is simply not true.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jul 2013

She's no more guilty than Trayvon Martin was.

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