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1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:41 PM Jul 2013

Just to be clear, on the NSA protecting its sources and methods

The most idiotic thing heard on the news is that the NSA needs to protect its 'sources and methods'. What utter nonsense. The sources for the NSA are anyone they chose to listen in on, and that appears to be everyone on earth. As for the methods, they are immaterial. They tap phones, the tap into all electronic information systems, and where they can't do it on-site (as with US phone companies and internet service providers) they use remote means such as ships at sea, satellites, and aircraft. There you have it, sources and methods.

No, the secrecy at the NSA is not about protecting sources and methods, its about keeping from the public those things they do with our tax dollars that would put us in a rage and cause the demise of the NSA itself if were were made aware of them. Secrecy at the NSA is about protecting the existence of the NSA, no more and no less.

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Just to be clear, on the NSA protecting its sources and methods (Original Post) 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 OP
Excellent. I'll add that there is another purpose as well. To keep us from organizing. Gregorian Jul 2013 #1
Isn't that the bitter and well hidden truth ... 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #2
Those smart fridges you can get an app for, they have taps in those as well snooper2 Jul 2013 #3

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
1. Excellent. I'll add that there is another purpose as well. To keep us from organizing.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jul 2013

They are effectively blocking us from our 1st Amendment rights. But this gets into touchy territory. The kind Thomas Jefferson talked about.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
2. Isn't that the bitter and well hidden truth ...
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:10 PM
Jul 2013

When you consider the size and brutality of our Government you'd be a fool to criticize it knowing that your ever word and every bit of information that has ever been collected about you is constantly available to it. And where is your protection? Is it in the Executive? Will your Congressman or Senator come to your aid? Where will the Court stand?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
3. Those smart fridges you can get an app for, they have taps in those as well
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jul 2013

Don't buy one of those, get the old school kind nothing fancy-

And alarm systems, they have hooks into every major brand. All the recording from cameras at your home goes straight to their super servers. Throw those alarms out and get a pit-bull instead. Okay, maybe not a pit-bull just a picture of LOL scary cat on the door



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