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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:15 AM Jul 2013

North Carolina Latest State To Lift Gun Bans At Kids' Games

I presume you’ll make up your mind by the end of this sentence whether North Carolina becoming the latest state to allow concealed-carry permit holders to bring their guns to playgrounds, recreation areas and schools is a good idea. In the case of schools, the guns must be stay in a locked vehicle, and I’m sure you’ve already determined whether, and why, that’s an outrage.

From the Charlotte Observer:

Rep. Jacqueline Schaffer, R-Mecklenburg, helped craft the final version of the bill. She said a new law would simply add to the places where permit holders can legally leave guns locked in cars. Schaffer said the bill will increase safety by helping people carry guns for their protection while going to campus and dropping kids off at school.

I presume even before reading that excerpt, you’ve determined if you are the sort of person who feels better having a gun on hand in case anything happens, or if you wonder how frightened you have to be if you can’t leave the house without thinking robbers and murderers are going to come upon you like medieval highwaymen.

I’m guessing that by now you’ve already decided whether it’s citizen protection or government overreach that North Carolina’s new gun bill, which was passed July 24 and could be signed into law by Gov. Pat McCrory as early as July 25, prevents local governments from issuing their own gun bans, something that was allowed in a previous iteration signed into law in 2011. You’re either upset or heartened that the North Carolina bill allows private property owners to institute their own bans, which means a field or facility owned by a private youth league could turn someone away for bringing a gun. You’ve already figured out whether it’s civil disobedience or constitutional disrespect when, in other states, localities pass gun bans at parks and recreational facilities anyway, despite state law saying they can’t.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2013/07/25/north-carolina-latest-state-to-lift-gun-bans-at-kids-games/

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North Carolina Latest State To Lift Gun Bans At Kids' Games (Original Post) The Straight Story Jul 2013 OP
oh thats a good idea--in my white suburban county we have local law enforecement in the stands dembotoz Jul 2013 #1
may as well sell beer and other alcohol there rurallib Jul 2013 #3
Steal a car, maybe win the free gun drawing. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2013 #2
More than 7,000 vehicle break-ins reported in Charlotte alone last year. Robb Jul 2013 #4
So if you leave a gun in the car and someone steals it, blame the victim? (nt) The Straight Story Jul 2013 #5
Leaving a firearm where it can easily be stolen is negligent. Robb Jul 2013 #6
Hmmm, interesting theory The Straight Story Jul 2013 #7
Getting your gun stolen is just like being raped? Robb Jul 2013 #9
Once again, more simply for you The Straight Story Jul 2013 #10
What could go wrong? KamaAina Jul 2013 #8

dembotoz

(16,826 posts)
1. oh thats a good idea--in my white suburban county we have local law enforecement in the stands
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:25 AM
Jul 2013

during some high school hockey games


screaming confrontation between opposing team parents not that uncommon

I am sure adding guns would be a really bright idea

rurallib

(62,444 posts)
3. may as well sell beer and other alcohol there
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jul 2013

kind of pump up the machismo.
Drunk with a gun at a high school game. What could possibly go wrong?

Robb

(39,665 posts)
6. Leaving a firearm where it can easily be stolen is negligent.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:37 PM
Jul 2013

Institutionalizing the practice under color of law is insanity.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
7. Hmmm, interesting theory
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jul 2013

So if a person does X that entices a criminal they are negligent?

I am sure there are many who would like to punish the victims of crimes.

So if I leave my bike outside at the gas station near here and someone steals it am I just stupid or negligent? If a woman walks home alone in an area that is in a bad neighborhood and is attacked is she to blame for the choice she made?

What if she is in a small town in Ohio and underage and drinks too much and people take advantage of her - is she to be blamed for not being more cautious because she should have known other teens would use this as a way to take advantage of her?

Robb

(39,665 posts)
9. Getting your gun stolen is just like being raped?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jul 2013

Please.

And negligence with respect to firearms speaks to all manner of handling it -- including storage. Gun ownership, unlike bicycle ownership, carries huge responsibility.

No one ever stole a bike then went on to murder someone with it. Even in Ohio.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
10. Once again, more simply for you
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 02:25 AM
Jul 2013

is the person being robbed responsible for being robbed (ie, is the victim of a crime responsible for what others do)?

Leave your keys in the car, someone steals it and hits others - your fault?

If you are saying temptations are too great so people should know that and take precautions, then where else does that apply?

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