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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:46 PM Jul 2013

Survey: Wall Street DOES NOT want Larry Summers as next Fed chief

So this is the point at which DU sides with Wall Street.

We are truly through the looking glass folks.


Wall Street wants Yellen, not Summers, as next Fed chief
By: Steve Liesman

Wall Street overwhelmingly believes President Obama will and should pick Janet Yellen to be the next chairman of the Federal Reserve, according to a survey.

Preliminary results of the CNBC Fed Survey for July show 70 percent of the 40 participants who responded believe Obama will pick Yellen, currently, the Fed's vice chair, to replace current Chairman Ben Bernanke, whose term is up in January.

Just 25 percent believe it will be the former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

Yellen also beats Summers when CNBC asks participants who the president should nominate, with 50 percent choosing Yellen and 12.5 percent saying he should reappoint Bernanke. Even write-in candidate John Taylor, the Stanford University president, beats out Summers on who the president should nominate.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100917426
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Survey: Wall Street DOES NOT want Larry Summers as next Fed chief (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 OP
Oh no, not Summers, please! Helen Borg Jul 2013 #1
Yes. And the Harvard connection is strong (BO & Summers). DURHAM D Jul 2013 #2
So you're siding with Wall Street Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5
Well, the forty particular economists, traders and strategists surveyed, maybe. Orsino Jul 2013 #22
The only people who want Summers are Summers and Obama. dkf Jul 2013 #3
what do you think the rationale would be? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #4
She was Obama's choice for vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve System deutsey Jul 2013 #6
I don't understand your "DU sides with Wall Street" line. Marr Jul 2013 #7
The OP seems prone to such petulant outbursts cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #8
Awwwww Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #10
It's "You hate Obama" Aerows Jul 2013 #23
I see a lot of venom here directed toward Summers, but not toward Yellen Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #12
The idea of Summers as chairman of the Fed Aerows Jul 2013 #16
Summers is not incompetent or reckless. JackRiddler Jul 2013 #21
Do you want Summers, or is this just another nihilistic exercise in division? cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #28
Actually I have chosen not to jump on the bash Larry Summers bandwagon the last few days Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #29
I'd rather be part of the herd that runs away from the cliff Aerows Jul 2013 #30
Of course you haven't stated an opinion. Obama hasn't stated his yet. Marr Jul 2013 #36
Actually I'm not a fan of Janet Yellen. Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #37
Guarantee: if Yellen gets picked, she will be denounced on DU as a puppet of Wall Street. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #9
Agreed JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #11
It's just so predictable at this point. n/t Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #13
How dare someone with banking/financial experience be nominated as Fed Chief?! AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #15
Not by me Aerows Jul 2013 #17
Summers would be a catastrophically stupid pick on a number geek tragedy Jul 2013 #18
Thank you Aerows Jul 2013 #19
I nominate Krugman. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #14
Not a bad idea Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #20
now that is an intriguing idea. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #25
I don't think Krugman wants the job. jazzimov Jul 2013 #35
This if you agree with so and so means you side with them argument doesn't wash with me. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #24
I KNEW this post was going to come from 1 of 4 people. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #26
You KNEW!11!! Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #27
Accept that which President Obama proposes with unfettered glee or you are... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #31
Like I said Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #32
If you "KNEW", then why in the hell did you post? nt bluestate10 Jul 2013 #38
I laid a finger upside my nose and gave with a nod, but no one noticed. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #40
Floating the name of Summers is unacceptable but Yellen is no better (if not worse), PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #33
Reminds me of Brer Rabbit and the Briar Patch northoftheborder Jul 2013 #34
Indeed. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #39

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
22. Well, the forty particular economists, traders and strategists surveyed, maybe.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jul 2013

Summers, however, is the CEOs' rentboy, and that's why he's a contender.

We don't want a deregulator with still-wet blood on his hands.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
6. She was Obama's choice for vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve System
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jul 2013

according to her Wikipedia bio:

On April 28, 2010, President Obama nominated Yellen to succeed Donald Kohn as vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve System.[11] In July, "[t]he Senate Banking Committee voted 17 to 6 to confirm her, though the top Republican on the panel, Senator Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, voted no, saying he believed Ms. Yellen had an 'inflationary bias.'" At the same time, on the heels of concerned testimony by Fed chair Bernanke, FOMC voting member James B. Bullard of the St. Louis Fed made a statement that the U.S. economy was "at risk of becoming 'enmeshed in a Japanese-style deflationary outcome within the next several years.'" Bullard's statement was interpreted as a possible shift within the FOMC balance between inflation hawks and doves. Yellen's pending confirmation, along with those of Peter A. Diamond and Sarah Bloom Raskin to fill vacancies, was seen as possibly furthering such a shift in the FOMC. All three nominations were seen as "on track to be confirmed by the Senate."[12]

On October 4, 2010, Yellen was sworn in for a 4-year term ending October 4, 2014. Yellen simultaneously began a 14-year term as a member of the Federal Reserve Board that will expire January 31, 2024.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
7. I don't understand your "DU sides with Wall Street" line.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jul 2013

I assume it's another casual insult to the people who frequent this site, but why do you think this aligns DU with Wall Street sentiment? Do you think Wall Street is against Summers? I mean, playing a little inside baseball and expecting the Vice Chair to be promoted Chair instead of Summers isn't exactly the same as DUers being against crony capitalism and bubble economics.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
23. It's "You hate Obama"
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jul 2013

type slander. If I can't detest fucking Larry Summers on his own terms for his part in the too big to fail scandal, nearly bankrupting Harvard and every other loathsome thing he has done, then I guess I am not allowed to think a rapist or a murderer should go to jail if they voted for Obama.

Foolish, foolish, foolish people.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. I see a lot of venom here directed toward Summers, but not toward Yellen
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jul 2013

It appears Wall Street and DU are in agreement when it comes to the possibility of Summers serving as Fed chair.

Just sayin'

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. The idea of Summers as chairman of the Fed
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jul 2013

has nothing to do with the idea that he would curb their activities. It has to do with the fact that he is so incompetent and reckless that he nearly bankrupted Harvard. He played so fast and loose with their funds that they had to stop serving a hot breakfast at an institution that is insanely expensive to attend.

You think THAT is a good idea for the Federal Reserve head? That's like asking Bernie Madoff to chair the Fed and think, "Oh, he'll do better this time."

Please have some backstory on why there is horror at the idea of this man running the Fed. Hint: It isn't because Obama is considering him.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
21. Summers is not incompetent or reckless.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jul 2013

Everything he did that we rightly hate him for was programmatic action. The idea was to deregulate banking so that banksters could plunder and so that wealth would be further concentrated with the 1%. The idea was to restore an old-style parochialism at Harvard with attacks on uppity minorities and women. These were not mistakes. The system and its actors do what they appear to do. To call it incompetence is to ascribe an unknowable motive. If his actions were really unintended failures, he would not have been Obama's economic adviser or in consideration for Fed chair at this time. Don't give them the benefit of the doubt. He is a class warrior.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
28. Do you want Summers, or is this just another nihilistic exercise in division?
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:39 PM
Jul 2013

It's funny that you seem to despise your fellow DUers for preferring Yellen without having the guts to state your preference for Summers.

If you don't prefer Summers then you are just bent out of shape over other DUers agreeing with you... which is intriguing.

Maybe you don't have a preference at all, and decided to make a divisive OP out of simple nihilism.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
29. Actually I have chosen not to jump on the bash Larry Summers bandwagon the last few days
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jul 2013

You on the other hand have chosen to follow the herd which is not surprising. Choosing to follow the flock is easy to do.

Refusing to jump on the bash Summers bandwagon does not mean I want him as the Fed chief. Wall Street and much of DU has written him off. I have not written him off.

I think I'll wait before I make any final judgements, unlike the herd followers like yourself.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. I'd rather be part of the herd that runs away from the cliff
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jul 2013

than part of the herd that blindly follows it because "Hey, how bad could it be to fall off it?"

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
36. Of course you haven't stated an opinion. Obama hasn't stated his yet.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jul 2013

That really is the truth of it, isn't it? If Obama had stated a preference for Yellen, you'd be praising her and saying it was such a wise move. No doubt you will, if that does indeed happen. But if not-- well, best not state your opinion until you've received it, right?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
37. Actually I'm not a fan of Janet Yellen.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

I would be disappointed if Obama nominated her, but I do think he will.

 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
15. How dare someone with banking/financial experience be nominated as Fed Chief?!
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jul 2013

Obama should nominate a horticulturist or the poet laureate!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. Not by me
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jul 2013

But if Summers gets picked? Hell, yes, I'll be screaming the same way I am now, and it has nothing to do with Obama but it has to do with Summers being an incompetent crook. I will stand by that opinion regardless, and "Obama picked ____" will never change my opinion on who the candidate is. You yourself said you thought Summers was a lousy pick.

Changing your mind now?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. Thank you
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jul 2013

And that doesn't mean I'm going to bash Yellin or anyone else that is picked. I'm specifically against Summers because he is incompetent and reckless. His record shows that.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
35. I don't think Krugman wants the job.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 03:06 PM
Jul 2013

If he weer to take any governmental appointment, I'd rather see him in a Administration position. The Fed is a key component, but it's rather limited in what it can do. Right now, we just need someone who would continue Bernanke's policies.

But, then again, Krugman is such a good writer I think he's more effective right where he is.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
24. This if you agree with so and so means you side with them argument doesn't wash with me.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jul 2013

I am against NSA spying. Apparently that means I am a libertarian Paul supporter. Now because I don't like Summers I am a Wall Street supporter. I don't know that much about Yellen, but I don't like Summers. That does not mean I support Wall Street. But my all means continue with the name calling. Very mature.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
26. I KNEW this post was going to come from 1 of 4 people.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

No predictability here...

No predictability in either who was going to post it first or what the argument would be.

Nope.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
31. Accept that which President Obama proposes with unfettered glee or you are...
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jul 2013

A supporter of x...

On the side of y...

A z-bot.

Man it's like groundhog day... over and over ad infinitum.

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
33. Floating the name of Summers is unacceptable but Yellen is no better (if not worse),
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jul 2013

just less high profile at DU and to the public at large.

Yellen was head of the CEQ under Clinton etc.

Here is her wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Yellen

I had near daily contact with her 30+ years ago and personally thought she was creepy after I knew her about a week.


I go for Stiglitz, if willing and able.

Stiglitz wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiglitz

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