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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDrones are in the sights of some hunters
They would prefer to shoot at deer, but sportsmen this fall just might bag some drones.
The Kansas Sport Hunting Association probably will work into its upcoming convention a session on what to do about any non-military drone that may be spying on hunters.
Shoot it? Ignore it? Call the sheriff?
Within a few years, I guarantee, therell be a drone harvested, said association president Ken Corbet. What redneck wouldnt want to have a nice drone hanging on the wall?
Whatever it says about the times, the Federal Aviation Administration this month saw fit to release a statement warning people of the potential criminal or civil liability in shooting down unmanned aircraft. At issue are small civilian robots armed with cameras increasingly a source of contempt among hunting enthusiasts, farmers and privacy advocates determined to defend their space.
The Colorado town of Deer Trail, population 550, has garnered international attention by circulating a proposed ordinance that would permit the shooting of drones. Licensed hunters may even collect a $100 bounty if they present identifiable pieces of a drone taken out, the petition proposes.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/07/27/4372219/drones-are-in-the-sights-of-some.html#storylink=cpy
Zorra
(27,670 posts)(BTW, just out of curiosity, does anyone know where the fuel tanks are located on a drone?)
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Either way, the fuel or batteries would be located close to the center of gravity, around the central rotor, for instance, for weight distribution purposes.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)and recorded on digital video by the robot police of our 1% Masters.
Anyone who does not want to have their every move watched by the robot police of our 1% masters must be doing something wrong, or they would not mind being under the just and rightful surveillance of our master's empire 24/7.
Anyone who suggests that they do not enjoy being spied on, and would disable the necessary robot police of our glorious 1% masters, is obviously a leftwing Paulbot gun nut racist traitor.
Even if they voted for Obama, have dark skin, and don't own a gun.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Then the drones got bigger, and bigger, and began increasing their firepower, finally hunting the hunters.
I hope that wasnt a premonition of things to come.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)dembotoz
(16,864 posts)or maybe a Cessna?
Deep13
(39,154 posts)ownership means possession. sending something off on its own under Common Law is abandonment of property. If I see of of those things hovering within reach, especially if it is hovering over my land, I'm doing my best to trash it.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)They're specifically talking about privately owned civilian drones. That's why the statement was from the FAA instead of the DHS.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)...I don't know about robots. Most drones are not governmental, or if they are, it is local police. The space above my yard is not navigable airspace. Under Common Law property rules, that airspace belongs to me as it is part of my yard. Anything in my yard ipso facto is mine.
So at what point do you stop kissing fascist ass and defend your basic, traditional, Common Law rights? Don't know about you, but I'm for the 4th Amendment and I'm not letting the invention of some gizmo undermine that.
I think what I will do is string fishing line at tree-top level across my yard. Gadget rotors tend not to like things tangling them up.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)We need a way to overpower their signal with bursts of directed, radio static.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It's probably important to note that drones send back video in real time so anyone shooting at it would be caught on video.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Other towns allow firearm discharge within their limits.
There are other ways to bring those things down. Eventually, someone will invent something that messes with their radio reception. I don't think the basic, Common Law ever envisioned people being allowed to trespass by remote device on other people's property. So, I still say it amounts to the same as throwing something over the fence into the neighbor's yard. Once I do that, the object is his.
So, who ever is watching the video feed would watch me doing something that is completely legal. Maybe they will know better than to trespass next time.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Don't shoot it down. Take it out with an anti-drone drone.
Aerial dogfights.
petronius
(26,606 posts)I would guess that the majority of (if not all) commercial, civilian, drones that are being talked about in the OP article rely on rotors - I wonder if it would be more effective to fly another drone above one, with net or wires dangling below the hunter-drone? Certainly better than firing bullets up into the air...
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)You can only shroud a prop so much for protection.
You could design something like the old mine sweeper nets for them.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)That means that the drone that the hunter can't see is capable of detecting not only his every movement but also that he has a gun in hand and even the color of the shirt he is wearing. These drones have not yet been reported to be armed, but as we have all seen, if it can be done it certainly will.
Now, what is it that some blowhard hunters think they are going to do?
Deep13
(39,154 posts)sarisataka
(18,819 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)to shoot at moving objects in the air. I am not talking bird hunting with shotguns, which have a relatively short range, but rifles. What could possibly go wrong
randome
(34,845 posts)But that's okay because it's the American Way!
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awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I was being a wise ass.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)A little .22, depending on wear it hits someone, can be lethal at one mile. The leave the gun at about 1100 fps. A 5.56mm AR15 round leaves the gun at almost 3000 fps.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I think about 99% of drones over the US are farmers observing their crops and herds.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)This is a bad thing? I mean I suppose they could do it with manned aircraft for a much higher cost since the word "drone" freaks tin-foil hat americans out.
villager
(26,001 posts)This is a good thing? I mean, I suppose they could do it with infiltrators and wiretaps, in a much more traditional way, but either way should keep military/industrial supporting Americans from freaking out about too much unchecked freedom.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)should I be freaked out but bird watchers and musicians?
villager
(26,001 posts)...around protests, while jotting down notes, you'd be all for it!
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)wouldn't "bird watcher" be an impractical disguise at a protest?
villager
(26,001 posts)..an excuse to take the MIC at its word.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)you want to get us killed by Obama's drones?
villager
(26,001 posts)As long as the "greater glory" of whatever cause -- or individual --you imagine you're supporting is untarnished.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)given the tyranny of the drones.
villager
(26,001 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)a drone gets really close, no one will be able to even hit one of these with a shotgun.
It's more likely that someone will come up with some mangled equipment and say that they shot it down.
If you really want to take one of these down, and even then it won't be a sure thing, get a remote controlled airplane. Can you say "Kamikaze".
Agony
(2,605 posts)The FAA only allows these UAV's to operate under 400 feet. The hobby of (First Person View) FPV multicopters is not nefarious by default. Like anything this technology will be abused by some. Please take the time to understand this issue before condemning everyone who pilots civilian "drones".
Here is a series of links to get you started if interested. Personal civilian Unmanned Aerial Vehicles are an awesome, often open source, technology with serious potential for good. Clearly there is and will be abuse, UAV's should not be used above private property or to invade privacy, as with anything new, regulations will need to be adjusted to protect everyone.
https://www.change.org/petitions/oregon-senate-bill-71-protect-the-rc-hobby-aerial-photography-and-fpv-communities
http://rcadvisor.com/relaxed-ama-fpv-rules-coming
http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/reg/
Cheers,
Agony