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kpete

(72,028 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 07:36 PM Jul 2013

We have become "the evil empire" and so it goes...

This, then, is our world: a single megapower has, since September 2001, been in a financing and construction frenzy to create the first global surveillance state; its torturers run free; its kidnappers serve time at liberty in this country and are rescued if they venture abroad; and its whistleblowers -- those who would let the rest of us know what “our” government is doing in our name -- are pilloried. And so it goes.


more: (i have had enough)
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175729/tomgram%3A_engelhardt%2C_luck_was_a_lady_last_week/#more
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We have become "the evil empire" and so it goes... (Original Post) kpete Jul 2013 OP
Amen montanacowboy Jul 2013 #1
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2013 #2
If by your works ye shall be known, then by our works we surely will be known. indepat Jul 2013 #3
OMG, are you gonna be in for it now! Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #4
Pass me some of that! Hydra Jul 2013 #6
No shit! Phlem Jul 2013 #13
Name the country you would prefer it to be, if it must be so. undeterred Jul 2013 #5
Andorra. Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #7
it is less about country and more about "community" kpete Jul 2013 #8
exactly the way to go,. the national nonsense is gotten out of hand deal local! Civilization2 Jul 2013 #9
Who said anything about another country? The old 'America love it or leave it' routine. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #12
+10 RC Jul 2013 #14
+++ hay rick Jul 2013 #16
oh i like it w0nderer Jul 2013 #17
The old '60's bumper sticker was Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #23
Pre-Reagan America tblue Jul 2013 #15
What's funny is the idiots doing this honestly think out allies are as blind as the public. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #10
I am starting to believe that we want the world to hate us. mick063 Jul 2013 #11
...and so I went... Fiendish Thingy Jul 2013 #18
Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. Lugal Zaggesi Jul 2013 #19
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #20
Seventy some years ago, America rose up and saved the world from terrible evil mountain grammy Jul 2013 #21
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #22

indepat

(20,899 posts)
3. If by your works ye shall be known, then by our works we surely will be known.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 07:56 PM
Jul 2013

The rest of the world pretty much know the thrust of our works, but surely must ponder the sanity of the people who, in awe and reverence, have eaten up the voodoo economics served up by the gipper, his slavish followers, and a goodly portion of the population.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
6. Pass me some of that!
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jul 2013

I can't wait for the chorus of "You're blowing things out of proportion!" or "You're free to leave!"

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
13. No shit!
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:04 PM
Jul 2013

I wish I could get this in widescreen! I've got Dolby theater mode on and some thumpin speaker just waitin.



-p

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
7. Andorra.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013
Andorra
[Chorus after each verse:]
I want to go to Andorra, Andorra, Andorra,
I want to go to Andorra, it's a place that I adore,
They spent four dollars and ninety cents
On armaments and their defense,
Did you ever hear of such confidence?
Andorra, hip hurrah!

In the mountains of the Pyrenees
There's an independent state,
Its population five thousand souls,
And I think they're simply great.
One hundred and seventy square miles big
And it's awfully dear to me.
Spends less than five dollars on armaments,
And this I've got to see.

It's governed by a council,
All gentle souls and wise,
They've only five dollars for armaments
And the rest for cakes and pies.
They didn't invest in a tommy gun
Or a plane to sweep the sky,
But they bought some blanks for their cap pistols
To shoot on their Fourth of July.

They live by the arts of farm and field
And by making shoes and hats,
And they haven't got room in their tiny land
For a horde of diplomats;
They haven't got room in their tiny land
For armies to march about,
And if anyone comes with a war budget
They throw the rascals out.

I wandered clown by the Pentagon
This newspaper clipping in hand
I said, "I want to see everyone
In McNamara's band."
I said, "Look what they did in Andorra,
They put us all to shame.
The least is first, the biggest is last,
Let's get there just the same."

The general said, "My dear boy,
You just don't understand.
We need these things to feel secure
In our great and wealthy land."
I said, "If security's what you need
I'll buy a couch for you,
A headshrinker is cheaper and quicker
And a damn site safer too."

kpete

(72,028 posts)
8. it is less about country and more about "community"
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jul 2013

For me & mr. pete these days...

Our priority has been family, friends, co-workers and their families
and bonds with others who are interested in creating a better world at the local level
Hard work, sometimes boring even
but healthier than most "Nationalistic" preferences (mho)
and way more rewarding for us.



peace, kp

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Who said anything about another country? The old 'America love it or leave it' routine.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jul 2013

How about 'America, fix it if you love it'? For a change.

hay rick

(7,648 posts)
16. +++
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jul 2013

First you have to accept that it's broken, instead of making excuses. The easiest way to figure this out is to compare America today to America 20 or 30 years ago. Any honest evaluation should conclude that this is a country in decline. If we built it better before we should be able to fix it so it's better now.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
17. oh i like it
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jul 2013

actually working on weaknesses instead of denying them and telling people to leave
what a strange concept :-p


as posted below, ...bumper sticker material!
wish there were 'likes'

tblue

(16,350 posts)
15. Pre-Reagan America
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jul 2013

Not perfect but the regular folk had some protections, including a good Supreme Court.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
11. I am starting to believe that we want the world to hate us.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jul 2013


The MIC welcomes this new order.

Let's increase our military spending ten fold.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,685 posts)
18. ...and so I went...
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jul 2013

To Canada- emigrated 11 months ago. relieved that my tax dollars no longer fund evil

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
19. Major combat operations in Iraq have ended.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jul 2013


In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.
The Evildoers have been crushed, and I'm sure gasoline will be back to $1/gallon soon.

Now go fly and enjoy America's great destination spots.
Get down to Disney World in Florida.
Take your families and enjoy life,
the way we want it to be enjoyed - spend lots of money.

That was ten years ago...

mountain grammy

(26,658 posts)
21. Seventy some years ago, America rose up and saved the world from terrible evil
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:10 PM
Jul 2013

and rebuilt Europe with the Marshall Plan. Now the world needs to be saved from America and the multinational corporations and banks she's spawned.

Can you even imagine this idiotic Congress rising to greatness with something like the Marshall Plan? I'll bet half of them have no clue what it was.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
22. K&R
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jul 2013
''It has become appallingly clear that our technology has surpassed our humanity.''

~Albert Einstein
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