Like garlic to a vampire...

WTF happened to "Support the Troops"? I guess those made in China magnetic signs were just posturing now that we have to actually provide the benefits the servicemen and women were promised for their time in uniform.

I'm against the wars and not particularly a strong proponent of spending money on military matters, but this country made a commitment to the people who served and we HAVE to honor that promise.

Denying a veteran his vote because his veteran ID is not good enough for the state politicians is the same as spitting in their faces.

...the bane of the retail word. "Where's my discount, I served, you owe me!" Selling their honor for a 10% discount.

"Because I'm a Vet, your rules have to fit me. My VA card is plenty and you have to take it or else your questioning my service! You owe me!"

It is so much fun to see this entitle mentality when I grew up with men who had more time in a latrine than this Bozo had in the Military. Never once did I see them ask for anything to be bent to their way because they served (12 total years during WWII, 18-months WWI, 2 years Vietnam). The public owes me nothing for my service, so here let me show you my Driver's license and I will vote!

I've never once met a vet who claimed anything you're saying. And I've sure never met a veteran who apparently hates other veterans so much. Do you always shut up and do as you're told when it comes to your Constitutional rights?

Vet calls - just received his Store Credit Card Statement-

Vet: "I did get my Vet discount on my Statement" "The amount wasn't discounted 10%"
Store: "Sir, did you get a discount at Check-Out"
Vet: "Yeah, but I should get a discount on my bill!"
Store: "Sir, we only give a discount at point of purchase."
Vet: "I want to talk to a Manager!"

Also fun, "Hey, my VFW card should be good enough!" or "What do you mean it has to be a service related disability, I served you know!"

And yes, reasonable requests from Poll Workers are answered happily as I exercise my franchise.

He was making an excellent point. Why shouldn't his Military ID, issued by the VA, be enough to vote?

Or more importantly, why should he or anyone else all of a sudden need to show their 'papers'?

Right wing garbage.

come to the Florida West Coast - God's Waiting Room - Land of most entitled Vets you have ever experienced. Not Right Wing Garbage - Retail reality.

But if you live in a state where they've begun asking for an ID (which is nothing but an attempt to disenfranchise the poor) your VA card should for damn sure be good enough.

And yes, the right to vote is something you were defending with your service, and I'm grateful to you whether you like it or not.

have passed laws requiring voters to show up with ID. This is used as a way to disenfranchise low-income or minority voters. For example, many states require a driver's license. Not everyone qualifies for a driver's license.

In any case, a VA card should be more than good enough.

Finland

Voter registration in Finland is automatic and based on a national population register. Each citizen is assigned a register ID at birth which contains a six digit date of birth, a century marker, and four other characters to make the ID unique which are mostly random, but one of which also indicates the person's sex. Permanent residents appear in this register even if they are not citizens, but this information is marked on the register. People in the register are legally obliged to notify the register keeper of changes of address. Changing the address in the register automatically notifies all other public bodies (for example the tax district for local taxation and the social security authorities) and certain trusted private ones (e.g. banks and insurance companies) making the process of moving residence very simple. Close to election time a notification is mailed to registered persons informing them of the election and where and when to cast their votes. Only citizens may vote in national elections but all residents can vote in local elections.

Finland doesn't have our unique history of racism, for one thing.

But here in New York I get a notification in the mail informing me of when the next election takes place and when and where I should vote. And I don't have to bring any ID. Maybe the rest of the country could emulate my state?

I just said NY State has a good system and I thought it would be nice if the rest of the country caught up.

Bother someone else now. Thanks.

social safety nets is not something to be bothered by.

I lived in NY and am well aware of the system up there. What if you move and forget to tell them? What if someone else decides to vote in your place? There are many problems that a system like Finland's handles remarkably well.

Both Grandfathers & my Father were in Service prior to Pearl Harbor and After Hiroshima.

One Grandfather did trench time in France for the First World War and started the second with his ship (USS California) being sunk at Pearl Harbor.

It adds up.

"One day of service is all it takes to get you killed. One day of service makes you a veteran." If this thread is any indication most people agree with my Dad.

you'd think

you did six years of service to this nation. surely you were compensated in some way.

i don't get it- you did it for the experience or the patriotism but none of the benefits?

for the skills I brought to the table. Used 1 Semester to finish a degree on the Montgomery GI Bill - total less than my contribution during my 6 years.

The honor was in the service - not the 10% discount. And because I didn't need or seek a disability status - the People of the US owe me nothing.

I think we at the least owe him the right to vote. And I've been in retail and have never came across what you describe, I have how ever came across a lot of co-workers and management thinking they don't owe the customer that's providing their income shit.

Never saw that anywhere. the closest I've seen to that was a restaurant offering "Veteran's eat free" on Veteran's Day. In that case it was a business offering, not a vet demanding. And yes, I used my VA card for a free meal.

Not so much everything as you melodramatically and petulantly infer, but rather nothing more than a vote (which, as far as I'm aware, have no 10% discounts...)

I imagine that the ways we thank others for their services are as varied as the people who thank them-- although I do realize many people may be upset when that thanks takes the form of money...

however, Smedley didn't come to that considered conclusion until many years later.

Pro War, anti soldier....

I find as a veteran that most veterans, that I know anyway, are against war and will vote for the person who is most likely to not take us to war. Voter id is all about keeping as many dems from voting as they can.

As you say, you would vote. So would I. Why is that vet's skin so thin? He had legal ID in his wallet, in addition to his V.A. benefits ID card. So why walk away without voting?

To keep Amerikkkkka safe for the 1%.

Rick Santorum wouldn't accept this (and, apparently, neither would at least one DUer who wrote a scathing nanny rant about how liberal shouldn't be Catholic).

Sharpton is on the bully pulpit every show exposing these draconian voter-suppression. He has a Montgomery to Selma anniversary march for Voting Rights scheduled for March 4.

Finland

Voter registration in Finland is automatic and based on a national population register. Each citizen is assigned a register ID at birth which contains a six digit date of birth, a century marker, and four other characters to make the ID unique which are mostly random, but one of which also indicates the person's sex. Permanent residents appear in this register even if they are not citizens, but this information is marked on the register. People in the register are legally obliged to notify the register keeper of changes of address. Changing the address in the register automatically notifies all other public bodies (for example the tax district for local taxation and the social security authorities) and certain trusted private ones (e.g. banks and insurance companies) making the process of moving residence very simple. Close to election time a notification is mailed to registered persons informing them of the election and where and when to cast their votes. Only citizens may vote in national elections but all residents can vote in local elections.

Just show your drivers license.
Good grief.
The last thing we need are liberal Democrats WALKING OUT without voting.

He should've just shown his licence and vote. If this the start of a trend of protest, then things will be worse in Wisconsin.