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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:16 PM Feb 2012

Bible class in public high schools? Sure, says Arizona House

By Ashley Powers
February 22, 2012, 2:23 p.m.
The Arizona Legislature has never been shy about weighing in on hot-button issues. (Exhibit A: SB 1070, the state's illegal immigration law.) The latest such move: a vote to allow public and charter schools to teach students about the Bible.

The Arizona House this week voted to allow high schools to offer a class called “The Bible and Its Influence on Western Culture,” which would focus on how the Old and New Testaments have influenced everything from law to literature. According to the Arizona Republic, five states already provide similar classes: Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

The Arizona bill's opponents don’t dispute that the Bible is a ripe topic for academic study. But some lawmakers predict a constitutional challenge, particularly because the course would not cover other religious texts. In fact, the Arizona House voted down an amendment that would have allowed schools to explore the Book of Mormon’s role in Western culture.

Opponents also raised questions about how teachers would present Biblical stories. As parables? Myths? Literal truth?
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-arizona-bible-20120222,0,1459123.story

The real challenge would be, what happens to the teacher who spends the entire class showing how the Bible came from a bunch of different sources, was rewritten to suit a Roman Emperor, and many of its stories came from predecessor Pagan myths? I'll bet they would get run out of town on a rail....

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Bible class in public high schools? Sure, says Arizona House (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2012 OP
Too many fried brains in AZ Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #1
Why not a Koran class? The GOP is lying about freedom OF religion. Lint Head Feb 2012 #2
Big mistake there, Fundies.... Bigmack Feb 2012 #3
My high school, CRK7376 Feb 2012 #4
I don't see anything wrong with this in theory DerBeppo Feb 2012 #5
At the same time that they made Tucson stop teaching the influence of Latino culture. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #6
I Wish They *Would* Teach the Bible in High School On the Road Feb 2012 #7
the book of mormon "has a role in western culture"? fell out of the sky is a role? nt msongs Feb 2012 #8
 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
3. Big mistake there, Fundies....
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
Feb 2012

I taught HS for 30 years, and I can tell you that the kids are smarter than you are.

They'll read the Bible, alright... they'll read it and have questions. Leviticus should be a load of fun for them.

The contrasts between what people think they know about the Bible, and the actual long, boring, contradictory, barbaric tome are readily apparent... especially to young, inquiring minds.

They are going to rue the day they had kids "study" the Bible.

CRK7376

(2,203 posts)
4. My high school,
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:34 PM
Feb 2012

I was a student and later taught in the same school, offered a Bible History class. I don't have a problem with schools teaching bible history. Since I taught in the history department, I was sure to cover Islam, all flavors of Christianity, and Hindu in my World History/European History/US History classes. Guy that taught the bible history class was a great history teacher, on Sundays he also served as a Methodist minister in a small rural, church.

DerBeppo

(455 posts)
5. I don't see anything wrong with this in theory
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:46 PM
Feb 2012

In practice, it might be a different story, but I'm not willing to throw something that is educational and useful just because there might be misuse.

My literature students have a very difficult time getting through some very significant texts due primarily to their lack of understanding when it comes to Biblical and historical allusions. It is difficult to teach Shakespeare or Chaucer when students have no idea about some of the underpinnings of those writers' philosophical structures. In fact, most of the time, even the random fundy student has only a surface level understanding of Biblical figures, stories or passages.

I know this isn't the intent of the legislation, but I'm counting on the law of unintended consequences (and the, pardon the pun, devilishness of some of the more intelligent students) will make these classes more intellectually satisfying.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
7. I Wish They *Would* Teach the Bible in High School
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
Feb 2012

You really can't absorb most of Western literature or art without it, which makes it impossible to get a good liberal arts education.

It would have to be done carefully, so as not to support either a specific interpretation, a specific belief, or a lack of belief. Although I'm not sure schools and school boards really want to get into the controversy that would result no matter it's taught.

To a lesser extent, a few religious texts, especially the Koran, could be incorporated.

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