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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 10:26 AM Aug 2013

Death Toll in Egypt: Edited to reflect newest numbers: official # now 638

Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:16 PM - Edit history (1)

The death toll from Egypt’s bloody crackdown on supporters of the deposed president, Mohamed Morsi, soared beyond 500 across the land on Thursday with more than 3,700 people injured, the Health Ministry said, in a further sign of the extent and the ferocity of Wednesday’s scorched-earth assault by security forces to raze two pro-Morsi protest camps in Cairo.

Despite the growing tally of dead, however, Muslim Brotherhood supporters of Mr. Morsi urged followers to take to the streets on Thursday, a day after the assault on the camps set off a violent backlash across Egypt and underscored the new government’s determination to crush the Islamists who dominated the free elections over the past two years.

Mohamad Fathallah, the Health Ministry spokesman, told the official Al Ahram Web site that the toll so far stood at 525 with 3,717 injured. He said the biggest concentration of killings, numbering 202, had been in the larger of the two protest camps in Nasr City suburb, with 87 recorded in the smaller Nahda Square camp near Cairo University. A further 29 deaths were reported from the Helwan area on the outskirts of Cairo with 207 from other areas around the country.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/world/middleeast/egypt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The only reasonable conclusion is that Al-Sisi wanted exactly this order of mayhem and murder in order to to install the draconian state of emergency that existed under Mubarak and that is what he did. He knew that the reaction from some of the MB and their supporters would be violent retaliation. There was never any intent on his part to transition to democracy. He's a strong man of the worst kind.

And a vile murdering fuck.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/14/bloodshed-in-egypt-95-dead-as-military-govt-clears-pro-morsi-camps/

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cali

(114,904 posts)
2. it is. I've found the reaction on DU to this wholesale slaughter
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 10:45 AM
Aug 2013

as disturbing as anything I've seen here.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
3. I suppose the lack of empathy can be attributed
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:03 AM
Aug 2013

to the religious affiliations of the victims, but I hate to even think that way.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
6. They all have the same religious affiliation
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:14 PM
Aug 2013

Except for the Coptics whose churches are getting burned to the ground. When your choices are a violent military and religious fanatics, you'll have to forgive those of us who don't want to support either side.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
7. I don't think one needs to take side
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:48 PM
Aug 2013

to be concerned over people being shot down by the hundreds. I think one can be on the side of humanity.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
8. For Heaven's sake
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:52 PM
Aug 2013

I would have thought it would be understood that anyone on this board is sick over the massacre of innocents? My point was that while I deplore the violence, there are no good guys in the leadership of either side. And I use the term guys very purposely.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. In the leadership of both sides
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:30 AM
Aug 2013

they're are no good guys. The leadership of both sides are the ones causing the violence.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. oh no they're not. many comments in multiple threads saying stuff
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:01 PM
Aug 2013

like "I won't shed a tear for those people".

many.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
15. I don't think those people belong here
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:28 AM
Aug 2013

It literally goes against the heart of what being a Democrat is. Very glad I've missed those posts - it would have been hard not to get banned with my reaction. My dilemma is wanting the violence to stop but not wanting either "side" to win.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. I'm not sure- according to wiki it was in the tens of thousands
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:12 PM
Aug 2013

and I don't know what the population of the country was at the time.

In any case, I haven't a clue as to what your point is with that question, or if you have one at all.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
12. Cut the fucking aid right now.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:27 PM
Aug 2013

This is completely insane. My heart breaks for the people of Egypt.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. Bodies are being held in morgues with death certificates not issued.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:45 PM
Aug 2013

That is what for the time being is suppressing the true number of deaths. Eventually there will be a tally up and the truth will out.

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