Probably not have worked for him. GG is becoming a liability, I would not trust him.

edit to add: Who would chose the lawyer they offered and why should he trust any lawyer that he has no way of checking out first?

I don't believe a word any of them say.

...to the UK authorities, then I can heartily agree!

(Yes I know: as if)

...to be fair.

Not to draw out the drama or anything, but it all seems like a clown show on that end of things. On the other hand, if we wind up with better regulation and oversight for surveillance activities, as we are likely to, then that will be a good thing. And I do hope that no one winds up going to jail over it.

only choose one from this list." And you would be okay with that.

Noice.

All thanks to the surveillance state and its buddies on DU.

We should trust in the British government that never lies... Iraq does know that quite well...

when it comes to situations like this. Let's say they haven't earned much trust around the globe since their old Colonial days which some of them still seem to yearn for.

This is a disgrace and I hope they get sued. People around the world would contribute to that lawsuit. They have succeeded in doing one thing, they have made a hero out of Miranda, someone who was not known until now.

I am glad they did this. It proves how right Democrats have been all along about the dangers of these these 'terror' laws.

Even one representing himself.

Only a few can reach that level of paranoid.

then yes, I'd prefer my own lawyer rather than one approved by authorities.

he was not provided with a translator, even though one was promised to him. So yeah, especially under those circumstances, I'd be insisting on a lawyer of my own choosing and to have him present in the room.

to contact a lawyer of his choice or have that lawyer present.

Ya' Think?

Who would accept a cup of water from these thugs?

The language thing makes this all the more outrageous. I hadn't
thought about that part.

at Rio airport and detain them for 9 hours, and confiscate all their laptops, etc. ... its not like Britain is in any position to protest or anything...

What's Britain gonna do....complain about security thugs?

be treated exactly the same.

the law only applies to terrorism, and the law permits questioning without a lawyer and with no right against self incrimination. He could have been taken to prison for up to 3 months for refusing to answer.

The only thing Brazil needs to do is saying they think this British citizen is a terrorist. See? It's that easy.

like to know.

nice

You read this part?


"It is clear why those took me. It's because I'm Glenn's partner. Because I went to Berlin. Because Laura lives there. So they think I have a big connection," he said. "But I don't have a role. I don't look at documents. I don't even know if it was documents that I was carrying. It could have been for the movie that Laura is working on."

What price is freedom?

if that's even possible.

This is the behavior of totalitarianism.

And disproving the Paulbots with maps!

I wonder what you get for selling your soul? A plastic trophy?

to Miranda type warnings (the rights, not the guy--irony there) and things of that nature.

If they haul you downtown, to "assist the police with their enquiries," and you tell them to piss up a rope, they're allowed to take your lack of cooperation into consideration (i.e. to suspect that you're guilty)!!! You really don't have the right to remain silent....

In the Middle Ages they had much more persuasive ways than jailing you.

I don't think so, for one his license was suspended and for another what shitty advice from that 'lawyer'...

will writing--a UK lawyer would have been a better bet.

I understand Miranda's not very educated; I've no idea if he's naive or not. He should have just kept yammering on in Portuguese; pretended to not understand or pretended to have trouble with the accents; that way he would have gotten a translator, and could listen to the questions and have time to think while hearing the translation.

GG and you can have whatever meaning you want for that word, but there is a dictionary definition.

I've seen links with that here before, but don't have the desire to go looking around for you. Bleeve it not, doesn't make a difference to me.

suspended past participle, past tense of sus·pend (Verb)
Verb

Temporarily prevent from continuing or being in force or effect: "work on the dam was suspended".

Officially prohibit (someone) from holding their usual post or carrying out their usual role for a particular length of time.

myself from teaching by not renewing my license for the next school
year and not paying the associated fee.

From dictionary.com (though I'll pull out an old hard copy dictionary if the internet version isn't sufficient as source):

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/suspend

sus·pend
[suh-spend]
verb (used with object)
1.to hang by attachment to something above: to suspend a chandelier from the ceiling.
2.to attach so as to allow free movement: to suspend a door on a hinge.
3.to keep from falling, sinking, forming a deposit, etc., as if by hanging: to suspend solid particles in a liquid.
4.to hold or keep undetermined; refrain from forming or concluding definitely: to suspend one's judgment.
5.to defer or postpone: to suspend sentence on a convicted person.
6.to cause to cease or bring to a stop or stay, usually for a time: to suspend payment.
7.to cause to cease for a time from operation or effect, as a law, rule, privilege, service, or the like: to suspend ferry service.
8.to debar, usually for a limited time, from the exercise of an office or function or the enjoyment of a privilege: The student was suspended from school.
9.to keep in a mood or feeling of expectation or incompleteness; keep waiting in suspense: Finish the story; don't suspend us in midair.
10.Music. to prolong (a note or tone) into the next chord.

verb (used without object)
11.to come to a stop, usually temporarily; cease from operation for a time.

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I imagine there might be a couple more if I were to look into legal or scientific dictionaries.

"retirement" or "resigns," thus refraining from practice, and stopping the renewal fees.

"Suspension" in NY State is not indicative of someone who did a windown--or at least, an intelligent one. You have to file a motion to get your license back in NY for non-payment, and that's a pain in the ass.

I suspect that Mr. Greenwald didn't pay the fees one renewal, and then was unable to renew his license due to the NYS tax lien against him. That's amazingly sloppy, and means that he is not licensed to practice law in America.

He's claimed it was over fees, but that sounds like an amazingly stupid reason to have your license listed as "suspended" for years when you have other options.

What I suspect is that he didn't pay the fees, and when the tax liens hit, he could not renew. So he'd probably have to settle the liens, and pay his fees in order to get back in good standing.

attorney would be so sloppy over something so trivial....I mean, we are talking a few hundred dollars for renewal, and some pretty simple paperwork to "retire" or "resign."

Green -Come on, it wasn't that bad, We'll fight the World together and make some bank!

Miranda -Dude, I just want a cold brew and to be back on the fucking beach fuck this

Miranda stood up to Secret Government. That makes him more of a democrat than those who think secret laws, secret courts and secret government surveillance are OK.

I would be beyond upset if this had happened to my husband. I am sure he was also. Don't bother replying because I won't be answering someone who is so obviously devoid of empathy.

Miranda knows what's up, when will you?

...this zombie water carrier is...

I don't worship people.

Miranda does have a kind of WTF you didn't tell me This could happen, dude! look on his face, eh?

and you know it's serious...

What kind of a jack-off comment is that?

It's like you know the story already when you don't know anything at all. What kind of person jumps up and down on that dildo?

in a thread a bit back..about spying. So...they say they know all about it. Or...they are exaggerating. Take your pick.

You and the people cheering it on should be ashamed of yourselves.

How did this thread turn into such an asshole magnet?

ordeal. The lack of empathy and mocking has a conservative smell to it.......

though.

Ignore makes the Authoritarian jerks go away.

the opposing point of view....which changes frequently around here...
work one angle, then another, and if that doesn't create enough
distraction, yet another! Very prolific. I couldn't keep it up if I
were them and wasn't paid....must be terribly tiresome.

but I do enjoy having a baseline that filters out those bad actors who have shown they won't participate in discussion honestly.

because there are some who don't listen to discussion...are past the point of even trying to engage with...because their minds are closed...they are clueless beyond reason...or there is a "profit motive." (sadly)

So...to stay sane or not waste precious time from work...it's better to do the "Ignore." I hate to use is also...but..one does what one has to do in these times.

the ignorance they promote. I hate to see that. If I thought
shunning would work, I'd try that....but the OTT ones would
talk to themselves, I think! Too much cognitive dissonance,
projection and snark to top it all off. These folks turn DU into
a circus at times and that is not good for the site. imho

These are very serious times. I've lived a long time and know
enough to realize this time is 'different' from other times of
national discord. Today I am deeply concerned about the 1st
and 4th amendments...we must preserve them.

/creeping sociopathy is very disturbing.

very correct.

You knew that... now, what the hell is a matter with the others on this thread?

so ...yeah. We are in it or close to it. Boston Bombing was a Test Run for LOCK DOWN!

It's definitely concerning these days.