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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:05 AM Feb 2012

Two arrested at Rumsfeld event at Truman Library

Two people were arrested after making a disturbance at an appearance today by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld at the Truman Library in Independence.

Independence Police Capt. John Cato said the two either refused to restrict themselves to an area in front of the library set aside for protestors or refused to leave the property. They were arrested for trespassing, a municipal offense.

|Matt Campbell, mcampbell@kcstar.com

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/24/3450086/two-arrested-at-rumsfeld-event.html#storylink=cpy

The two arrested were veterans who were there to arrest Rumsfeld for war crimes.

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Two arrested at Rumsfeld event at Truman Library (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 OP
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2012 #1
Soooo.......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2012 #2
They were standing on the steps. In uniform. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #4
They were in military uniform? hughee99 Feb 2012 #16
Words matter... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #13
This deceptive war criminal prick should be hounded till the day he dies. Lint Head Feb 2012 #3
Also Dubya, Cheney and Condi. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #5
The irony is overwhelming. The protestors were arrested for protesting a real criminal. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #6
I don't have a problem with this.. Black and Gold Feb 2012 #7
Welcome to DU countingbluecars Feb 2012 #8
LOL proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #11
Why would I not? Black and Gold Feb 2012 #12
Poster is no longer with us. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #27
Yeah. It's too bad mass murders aren't treated the same way. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #9
1. They didn't go in the building. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #10
.. Black and Gold Feb 2012 #14
Once again. They weren't being disruptive. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #15
Where in the hell... Black and Gold Feb 2012 #17
Where in the hell are you getting your information from? Vincardog Feb 2012 #18
When you Black and Gold Feb 2012 #19
There is this pesky little thing: Vincardog Feb 2012 #20
You don't understand Black and Gold Feb 2012 #21
Can I "peaceably assemble" at a Public Library? Do I have to check with you every time? Vincardog Feb 2012 #23
I was there. That's where I'm getting my info. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #22
Please research the following: Le Taz Hot Feb 2012 #28
w* and dick???? spanone Feb 2012 #24
Why in the hell is Rumsfeld even allowed to speak there? Brother Buzz Feb 2012 #25
From a source I trust more than the M$M - OccupyKC.net csziggy Feb 2012 #26

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
2. Soooo..........
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:48 AM
Feb 2012

We're back to "Free Speech Zones""? I was always told that in America, EVERYWHERE is a free speech zone. Apparently not in Missouri.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. They were standing on the steps. In uniform.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 02:49 PM
Feb 2012

Not blocking anyone from entering.

They were arrested for not following directions.

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
13. Words matter...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:06 PM
Feb 2012

Everywhere in America is not a free speech zone. This place may or may not be but there are many places that are not.

 

Black and Gold

(28 posts)
7. I don't have a problem with this..
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 04:10 PM
Feb 2012

It is a pet peeve of mine when people go into a building, then are disruptive and don't follow the rules of that place, then are asked to leave, then they refuse, and then after they refuse to leave peacefully they are arrested.

Then people complain that they are arrested like it was some big injustice.

 

Black and Gold

(28 posts)
12. Why would I not?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:58 PM
Feb 2012

And if I was told to leave, I would.

But if I didn't, and I got arrested, I wouldn't pretend like I was in the right.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
10. 1. They didn't go in the building.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:42 PM
Feb 2012

2. They weren't disruptive.

3. They weren't arrested for being disruptive.

4. Facts. They matter.

 

Black and Gold

(28 posts)
14. ..
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:12 PM
Feb 2012

1. Ok, they didn't go into the building. Hardly relevant.

2. They were being disruptive if they were protesting in an area they were told not to and then refusing to leave.

3. Being disruptive and refusing to leave led to them being arrested for trespassing.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
15. Once again. They weren't being disruptive.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

They were standing on the steps in silence wearing their fatigues. They refused to move and were arrested.

So the arrest was for refusing to follow directions.

The arresting officers were more disruptive than these two veterans.

 

Black and Gold

(28 posts)
17. Where in the hell...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:23 PM
Feb 2012

are you getting your information from? I'm simply going by the news story that YOU posted. Here is the entire story you posted:

"Two people were arrested after making a disturbance at an appearance today by former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld at the Truman Library in Independence.

Independence Police Capt. John Cato said the two either refused to restrict themselves to an area in front of the library set aside for protestors or refused to leave the property. They were arrested for trespassing, a municipal offense.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/24/3450086/two-arrested-at-rumsfeld-event.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy"

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
18. Where in the hell are you getting your information from?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:37 PM
Feb 2012
the two either
refused to restrict themselves to an area in front of the library set aside for protestors
or
refused to leave the property. They were arrested for trespassing,

Any "disturbance" was created by those enabling and protecting the war criminal not there two soldiers.

Wow 25 posts and I already am detection a pattern.

 

Black and Gold

(28 posts)
19. When you
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:40 PM
Feb 2012

don't leave when you are told to, then you are not welcome there. When you are not welcome there, you can be arrested for trespassing. How is that hard to understand?

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
20. There is this pesky little thing:
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:46 PM
Feb 2012

U.S. Constitution

BILL OF RIGHTS

First Amendment [Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, Petition (1791)]
AMENDMENT I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or
the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
 

Black and Gold

(28 posts)
21. You don't understand
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:51 PM
Feb 2012

the Constitution.

You can't "peaceably assemble" in my backyard as you please. You can't peaceably assemble just wherever you want.

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
25. Why in the hell is Rumsfeld even allowed to speak there?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:10 PM
Feb 2012

In my perfect world, Truman would be frog-marching Rumsfeld to the Black Maria.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
26. From a source I trust more than the M$M - OccupyKC.net
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:19 PM
Feb 2012

The article you link to gives the impression that the veterans were part of the protest inside the library. According to this, they were separate from the Mic Check group.

Mic Check to Donald Rumsfeld: War Criminal! Turn Yourself In!

Saturday, 25 February, 2012 in Occupy KC News, Updates

Today, Occupy KC and Veterans for Peace members took a trip to Truman Library in Independence to pay a visit to known war criminal Donald Rumsfeld. Veterans for Peace members participated in a “freeze mob” on the library steps until one Iraq War veteran and one Afghanistan War veteran were detained and arrested by Independence Police. The veterans were later bailed out by Occupy KC and will receive legal support from the Occupy KC legal team.

Inside of the library, KCUR radio host and Kansas City Star political correspondent Steve Kraske interviewed Donald Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was interrupted when Occupy KC activists mic checked him, demanding that Rumsfeld turn himself in for lying to the American people and drawing the nation into an illegal war of aggression. Supporters of Rumsfeld turned on the activists making it known that they believe Occupy is “what’s wrong with the country” and using slurs to describe one female activist. Occupy activists continued by reading the names of fallen service members from the area, but were removed from the auditorium.

Kraske and Rumsfeld were interrupted for 10 minutes before the crowd was calmed and the interview continued. Although Rumsfeld has yet to turn himself into authorities, for 10 minutes truth spoke to power and our fallen brothers and sisters, from Kansas City and Iraq, were remembered.

http://www.occupykc.net/mic-check-to-donald-rumsfeld-war-criminal-turn-yourself-in/


Articles:

http://www.examiner.net/news/x1481609918/Rumsfelds-speech-draws-protesters-to-Truman-Library

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/24/3450086/two-arrested-at-rumsfeld-event.html#storylink=rss
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