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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsmy cousins husband is an NRA instructor.
He has guns in his home I didn't even know exist. Last year after the movie theater shooting I asked him was it really necessary to allow 100 round clips. His answer was they were a hoot to use and he had fun using his to kill prairie dogs in se Oregon.
My cousin has been one of my favorites since I was old enough to remember. She has gone along with the nra stuff since they got married. recently she has said in private to me that she doesn't condone the recent political actions of the nra ,but stays quite to keep the peace at home.
Recently she asked me if I would like to make here a bamboo fly rod for an auction she was having. I made one up for her and told here to start bidding at 600.00 but it was worth 1300.00 she thanked me and told me she would get me a receipt I could use for tax purposes. well I just received the form filled out by her .I thought it was for her church because she is a Episcopalian that goes to church every weekend. I come to find out the auction was on behalf of the NRA not the church. I immediately felt sick .I think she played me and knew I wouldn't do it for her if it was for NRA .Hell, I didn't even know they were a non profit. I feel like confronting her but I know she was pressured by her husband. Maybe I should just go directly to him and tell him to leave me out of any future "charity " projects. I guess I am looking for ideas on how to deal with this before the next family gathering. If I don't plan ahead there is going to be fireworks. . dammit ,this is really under my skin
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Your cousin is in deep, deep trouble.
Do they have kids?
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...seeing how the wife is an Episcopalian the odds are he is too and they are considered a very liberal church.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)What part of "first paragraph" didn't you get? Anyway, here's it:
"He has guns in his home I didn't even know exist. Last year after the movie theater shooting I asked him was it really necessary to allow 100 round clips. His answer was they were a hoot to use and he had fun using his to kill prairie dogs in se Oregon."
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Not surprised.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)dairydog91
(951 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)But it sounds like you really want to get it off your chest.
Any hope you can call her just to say that you're glad the auction was successful but that you're really disappointed that she didn't tell you about the NRA angle?
If you and she are close it ought to be OK to just clear the air about it and move on.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)you don't appreciate being used like that. See if she apologizes, which I think should be a minimum response from her.
But for real penance, you should ask her for a contribution to your favorite politician running for office.
But that's just me.
Swamp Lover
(431 posts)You seem to like her much more than she authentically likes you.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)If you need to talk to her or him about it, then do so after you cool off a bit, if you're still heated.
petronius
(26,604 posts)neglected to name the 'charity' because she knew you would decline, and explain how deceitful and offensive that would be. It's not as if you just cleared out the back of your closet, after all - a handmade rod is a pretty major expenditure of your time and skill.
And I wouldn't wait until the next gathering - give her a call...
Logical
(22,457 posts)Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)you assumed it was for her church? You know what they say about assuming things don't you?
How was you that you found out the auction benefited the NRA?
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)as the beneficiary. The form was needed to claim the donation of the rod during income tax filings.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)reading comprehension skills.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)ellenfl
(8,660 posts)tapermaker
(244 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)If she asks why, explain to her what you found when you did the rod and saw the tax form and that you don't support organizations that you have moral objections to.
Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)They're for target practice and such. People only hunt for food anyway. And the best part is being in the fresh air. They really love animals and are really sad to have to kill them.
spin
(17,493 posts)I have punched a lot of holes in paper targets.
It would be nice to reach a time in our nation where firearms are only owned by hunters, target shooters, collectors and those who live in extremely dangerous neighborhoods or work in law enforcement.
I grew up in a rural area in northern Ohio back in the 1950s and 1960s. Few people who had no real reason to own a firearm had one in their house.
The sad part is the gun crime in general is falling to levels last seen in the late 1960s but neither the NRA or the gun control advocates stress this fact. Both sides either recommend buying a firearm to prevent a criminal attack or to impose strong restrictions on firearm ownership in order to reduce the rise of violent crime in our nation.
Crime Drops to All-Time Low
JUN 12, 2012 02:30 PM ET // BY SHEILA M. ELDRED
Kids today may not be running around the neighborhood without fear like Beaver Cleaver, but the country is in the midst of low levels of crime not seen in decades, according to a report released this week by the FBI.
Violent crime, which has been falling for five years, decreased 4 percent in 2011, according to the Preliminary Annual Uniform Crime Report. Murders are at the lowest point in 40 years. Violent crime, according to the FBI, includes murder, rape, robbery and assault.
http://news.discovery.com/human/violent-crime-statistics-120612.htm
Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008
Annual Rates for 2009 and 2010
Alexia Cooper and Erica L. Smith, BJS Statisticians
***snip***
Long term trends and patterns
In the last decade (since 2000) the homicide rate declined to levels last seen in the mid-1960s
The homicide rate doubled from the early 1960s to the late 1970s, increasing from 4.6 per 100,000 U.S. residents in 1962 to 9.7 per 100,000 by 1979 (figure 1). (See Methodology for information on rate calculations.)
In 1980 the rate peaked at 10.2 per 100,000 and subsequently fell to 7.9 per 100,000 in 1984.
The rate rose again in the late 1980s and early 1990s to another peak in 1991 of 9.8 per 100,000.
The homicide rate declined sharply from 9.3 homicides per 100,000 in 1992 to 4.8 homicides per 100,000 in 2010.
***snip***
Trends by weapon type
Homicides were most often committed with handguns
Handgun-involved incidents increased sharply in the late 1980s and early 1990s before falling to a low in 2008.
Homicides committed with guns other than handguns hit a low point in 1999, but have increased since then.
From 1980 through 2008, homicides involving weapons other than firearms have declined slightly or remained steady (figure 42).
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
What really frustrates me is that I thought our nation would pass some rational laws to help curb gun violence after the shooting in Newtown such as universal background checks and improvements to our NICS background check. Unfortunately the gun control advocates and the media pushed hard for another assault weapons ban and the result was that nothing passed at a national level. However thousands of citizens ran down to their local gun stores and wiped the shelves clean of all types of firearms and ammunition.
Today we have millions more firearms in the hands of people who have little use for them and often who lack the necessary training to safely handle and store them properly.
Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)On 8 June 2012, Professor of Psychiatry Ulrik Fredrik Malt testified in court as an expert witness, stating that he finds it unlikely that Breivik is schizophrenic. According to Malt, Breivik suffers from Asperger syndrome, Tourette syndrome, narcissistic personality disorder and possibly paranoid psychosis.[106]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
dkf
(37,305 posts)Really you can't blame her for your wrong assumption. The fact she gave you a receipt shows she is being on the up and up.
And you are jumping to assumptions again about her motivations. You got it wrong the last time. Maybe you should take it easy and just ask next time?
Getting upset over someone else's SO's politics is a losing proposition, IMO.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)The number of replies that are completely unsympathetic shows how many toxic personalities haunt the internet. Your cousin and her husband intentionally mislead you which shows they have serious personality issues. I highly recommend a book titled Toxic Coworkers: How to Deal With Dysfunctional People on the Job. While this is a family situation, the book was very helpful to me in dealing with a dysfunctional sibling.
Do not let people tell you that it is your fault. They are wrong. You are on the moral high ground here. If I think of anything else I will post here again. Good luck!
aikoaiko
(34,184 posts)You didn't care to ask what the auction as for.
You should tell her how you feel about the situation, but recognize your own part in it. It important for her to know that you feel betrayed by the omission.
I don't understand why this would be a "fireworks" situation or why you would go to the husband? Its your cousin who made the deal.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)They are like a KJV Biblical animal: unicorns ( Num. 23:22; 24:8; Dt. 33:17; Job 39, 9-10; Psa. 22:21; 29:6; 92:10; Isa. 34, 7). They don't exist.
tapermaker
(244 posts)talking about.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)tapermaker
(244 posts)I just went off what the news at the time said of the incident. When I asked david about them ,he seemed to know what I meant.
Paladin
(28,276 posts)The fact is, the two terms have been used interchangeably in the firearms community for generations.
avebury
(10,952 posts)If she recently told you in private that she " doesn't condone the recent political actions of the NRA but stays quiet to keep peace at home", I wonder if she was lying to you and pulling a fast one on you. Do you think that she flat out lied to you about her thoughts on the NRA? If she knew what your thoughts are on the NRA she have realized that you would never agree to help her with the auction "she was having" if you any belief that it was on behalf of the NRA. Holding an auction for the NRA shows that she is an active participant in the process and not just keeping quiet to keep the peace in the family.
After you calm down and can think out what you want to say to her I would definitely call her on it and tell her point blank to leave you out of any future fund raising efforts. It sounds like you care a lot more for your cousin then she cares for you.
Her husband sounds like he has a screw loose too. I don't know if you have any children but, if you do, is this someone you want to have around them?
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)By confront I don't mean be angry and accusatory, just direct. Tell her how you feel about having your work go to an NRA auction, why you believe she should have known this would upset you, and how you plan to respond to her requests in the future. That you didn't ask who would benefit from the donation is a minor issue because you trusted her.
Mail the tax receipt back to send and tell them you wouldn't have offered it up to an auction had you known that it would be auctioned off for/by the NRA.
IOW, get this out from under your skin by taking positive steps.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)I see comments or statements like this often but find them hard to believe sometimes. Could you elaborate please?
tapermaker
(244 posts)I have a bit of history with gun deaths .I lost my grandfather to suicide ,and had a friend in grade school who accidently blew his head off with a shotgun when we were 12 during summer vacation.I was the one who found him. I also lost my uncle to suicide back when I was 15. He was accused of sleeping with an underage girl ,and was about to go to prison. He shot himself in an ally next to mary`s club ( a bar he frequented in downtown Portland.)I have never owned my own firearm even though I am 54 yrs old. I have a baseball bat in the corner behind the front door for self defense.
I don't like guns, and believe it or not I do get physical symtoms when around them.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)OldEurope
(1,273 posts)And if your cousin asks why, you should tell her about your feelings. Ask her to forward that money to some homeless shelter or something.
I feel so sorry for you.
Edited to add: If you can afford it!
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)My suggestion is to take the tax deduction and use the money you save on taxes to make a donation to Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the Brady Campaign, the Humane Society or even your local suicide prevention organization. You are owed the tax deduction and should take it IMO. However, by using the money you save to support a cause you agree with you are taking positive action, turning a negative into a positive.
You should check with the IRS to make sure what your cousin and her husband are running is a legitimate charity event. If you have never talked to the IRS, you will be surprised how helpful they are. Just call now instead of during tax season. The IRS agent I talked to about a capital gains issue saved me thousands of dollars.
I would make a note on my calendar and make a donation in their name every year in memory of your loved ones to an anti gun violence organization or mental health org in the future, too.
One more thing that I found disturbing is your cousin's husband's talk about shooting prairie dogs. It is a disturbing symptom of deeper psych issues. Be careful around him.
Good luck and take care of yourself.