unless a 2 year old knows how to take off the safety

Revolvers just have double action triggers and a lot of CCW designed semi-auto guns do as well.

The mother is lucky she was shot and not her child.

dear god, how obvious is that!

freak?

JK <----- Poe's Law

I guess you make the laws now

But have three internal safety devices, though i carry both in holsters that dont allow the trigger to be pulled until released from the holster. My ankle holster has a retention clasp and my hip paddle holster has a level two retention.

Of my primary or going through three magazines.

Manly man.
TWO guns lol

what he does and might need them if he is in a dangerous line of work. Way to speculate on stuff you have no knowledge of.

That has 2 accounts.
No explanation, just "I have 2 guns"
Great, now I hope I dont live near someone so scared.
My son, who is 15, is a pretty big kid (already 6-5 260)
And, yes, I AM scared someone will use a form of
'he scared me' AFTER they shoot him.

So take your 2 guns and get some psychiatric help

I hate it when that happens

magazines are only 7 rounds. 3 of them is not that many. 21 compared to some 16 round single magazines.

it other than paper targets. Never plan on using it for any other purpose. I have a CCW but do not carry. It is housed safely in my gun safe as we speak.

But the baby is for those oh shit moments that happen every so often.

Afghanistan? Maybe Syria? Are head of al-Sisi's security detail?

Did Quick Draw McGraw have that?

Its one of those things that you would rather have and not need than need and not have.

Rather than just take cover and hope for the best.

Your phrasing, "our vocation to head towards the danger" seems a lot more operatic than the phrasing most of my cop friends would use. If that is what you are implying.

I assume you are carrying two loaded weapons because of your job....

I figured that must be it. Was truly hoping you were not a nut

I figure the time of the Wild West or El Dorado are long gone. Are you figuring you will meet up with Audey Murphy or John Wayne out there? I'm not even being facetious. I am actually curious as to what pleasure this gives you.

I know if I saw you, you would be one of the most frightening people I ever met, because I wouldn't know if you were someone crazy or would do something crazy if they heard something they didn't like.

Morons, the lot of them.

If this keeps up they will end up culling their own ranks and solving the gun problem by themselves. I suggest all sane people do what my family does. We don't allow our children in the homes of gun owners. No exceptions.

Non-gun-owners tend not to shoot a lot of kids.

I don't find people who would keep guns in a home with small children to be responsible, full stop. I wouldn't trust gunners to watch my kids for 10 minutes in a front yard. They're irresponsible people in general.

And if one followed the 'logic' that one needed a gun to protect oneself when one is not at home, what is one going to do to protet themselves from this negligence? Shoot the two year old? This country is batshit crazy.

parents' insanity?

"Gunner trash is as gunner trash does."

That's very succinct and true.

to let her child kill himself or someone else....

Yet more "responsible" gun owners.

The gun should have been charged.

It's all in the "framing".

Was it the child or or the mom's finger, or did something in the purse get pushed against the trigger? They should have phrased it "one shot was fired".

they make CC purses with a separate weapon pocket. Not smart to have two hands in there fiddling around with a loaded weapon. I assume she knows better now.

If this mother of a 2 year old was carrying a loaded gun with a bullet in the chamber and no safety, it's debatable whether she will ever learn anything from the experience. At the very teeny, tiniest least, she ought to lose -- irrevocably -- her license to carry.

Shot herself in the hand attempting to wrest a loaded gun from her 2 year old! Yeah, that's an America to be proud of.

innocent person.

For example, this woman is responsible for her child nearly shooting himself or someone else.

This guy is responsible for shooting a guy he didn't like last night in a parking lot.

And so on. See my sigline. Very, very responsible folks.

99% responsible, find me a group that is 100% with no outliers.

People without guns are responsible for 0% of shootings.

Bravo

The point I responded to was about responsible CCW carriers and two cases were posted that showed some that are irresponsible. Bad apples in any group. I pointed out that with the number of CCW holders currently active against that it is miniscule and 99% ARE responsible and have caused no issues.

100% of car accidents involve a car, oh that's right, I am sure you will label this an NRA talking point.

I had to have a background check prior to me purchasing any of my firearms. Never had to do that with a car. I do not need to even insure or register my car if I do not drive it on the public roads.

I have to buy a special tax stamp and go through a federal and local background check if I wanted to buy a machine gun, I can buy the fastest car out there with no problem. New manufacture of types of weapons are banned, has that happened to cars?

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Cars can be and should be regulated for public safety. Do I really need to point this out to you? When I have my car inspected, it is to find safety violations, which protects me as much as it does the rest of society. When we speed, there are laws to protect us from speeding. Ditto drunk driving. Cars also have several social utility factors that guns just don't have.

sigh...it is so tiresome having to go thru this with some people...

I just answered the question put out. Weapons are more regulated than cars.

New manufacture of cars have improved safety, improved gas mileage providing help to the environment, and helped weed out cars with problems to the consumer. Do I have to point out more than that?

I have a few for shooting paper targets, stock bolt action military rifle, semi-auto rifle. Two handguns of different sizes and calibers. All locked safely in my gun safe.

members that have been arrested

"Mayors Against Illegal Guns member and Democratic Gainesville, Fla., Mayor Craig Lowe was arrested on charges of driving under the influence and property damage after police found him asleep in his car at the scene of a crash last Thursday."

"Gary Edward Becker, former mayor of Racine, Wisconsin from April 2003 until January 2009. Becker, a threat to America’s underage girls, served only three and half years in jail for child sex crimes and compounding the offense, Becker, showing no remorse, just weeks before his sentencing was spotted in a Racine department purchasing small-size lingerie.

Although Becker is now a “former” member of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayor against Guns, such a record gives all new meaning MAIG’S platform that it is all about the children."

"In a very strange and sad story developing out of Pennsylvania, one of Michael Bloomberg’s “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” members has found himself in jail. James Schiliro, mayor of Marcus Hook, Pennsylvania, was arrested this past Thursday for official oppression, reckless endangerment, unlawful restraint, false imprisonment, and furnishing a minor with alcohol.

Schiliro ordered a local policemen to bring him a 20-year-old male to his home. At which point Schiliro allegedly served the minor alcohol and tried to have sex with him. When the minor refused, Schiliro apparently retrieved multiple handguns, where he then proceeded to fire one of them in the minors direction as a form of intimidation."

want more examples?

and remind me what that has to do with gun safety?

must get heavy.

From your post "in terms of public safety"

and at least one of them involved guns

I hope all get punished to the full extent of the law.

Almost as bad as "the 'car' veered down the highway...".

SHE is much more of a threat to herself and child than the potential attacker she's worried about. I hope this was a wake up call.

on the new picture of Zimmy touring the Kel-Tec factory. That grin on his face needs SOME kind of caption.

Thank goodness she injured herself and didn't kill the baby or a bystander. She'll have a scar and maybe hand pain to remind her everytime she thinks about guns or handles a gun or loads a gun.

I really doubt this lady's ability to learn a damned thing from the episode. Probably will praise Jesus for not killing her baby or anyone -- and make an empty promise to herself to be more careful next time.

Where the hell was a good man with a gun to prevent this near-tragedy, anyway?

for allowing concealed carry owners in the store.

her kid could get it. NEVER!

This is a good example of gun people who just don't CARE what happens, even to their own flesh and blood.

I am boiling mad about this. There are far too many things that parents have to be fearful about with heir kids. This is SO avoidable!

if her wound was great enough to get her attention. I do not wish her permanent harm, I wish her insight and wisdom. I also wish she had been charged with something....but alas, I do not run the world.

... for improperly securing her little ones in her van. When the worst finally happened it was the baby who ended up crushed to death between the (adult, fixed) car seat and the door. Cries of: "She's been punished enough by this tragedy" oddly did not move law enforcement once her records came to light. I don't remember what she was finally charged and convicted of, but in my mind it was criminal negligence. Seriously criminal.

does not mean you have enough sense to carry!

However, i understand a woman caring some form of protection, not just condemns. Maybe she will consider pepper spray after this.

purse, neither one is likely to discharge accidentally.

I like it.