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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 06:12 PM Aug 2013

Starbucks supports gay marriage, yay, but allows guns, boo.

I can't keep my boycotts ( or buycotts- damn that's witty) straight.

These single issue boycotts are confusing and pointless. Starbucks did fine today because 99.9999% of their customers didn't know (or care) about any boycott due to their compliance with gun laws or their support of gay marriage. While you may want to boycott them based on their gun law stance, the fundies are boycotting them because they support gay marriage.

If you don't want to go to Starbucks because there's a chance that another patron might be armed, go there because one of the other patrons might be in a gay marriage... Or don't or whatever. Oh shit, what if a gay married couple carries a concealed weapon???

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Starbucks supports gay marriage, yay, but allows guns, boo. (Original Post) NightWatcher Aug 2013 OP
I suuport starbucks Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #1
What's really freaky, is think about how many buy/boy-cotts we participate petronius Aug 2013 #2
SB supporting rights is a good thing. ileus Aug 2013 #3
I tend not to give much notice to what "Mommy" groups want REP Aug 2013 #4
Human rights is a FAR bigger issue to me than gun control LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #5
+1 nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #6
Tolerance is not a la carte Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #7
People who call for "boycotts" like this don't understand how they work Recursion Aug 2013 #8
I don't usually listen to people who tell me to boycott companies DMark69 Aug 2013 #9
Welcome to DU, DMark69 Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #10
And has shitty coffee! Egnever Aug 2013 #11

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
1. I suuport starbucks
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 08:13 PM
Aug 2013

Due to their stance on marriage equality. ...I am not paranoid of soneone who might be carrhong a concealed firearm

petronius

(26,602 posts)
2. What's really freaky, is think about how many buy/boy-cotts we participate
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 08:27 PM
Aug 2013

in every day without knowing a thing about them. I mean, I've pretty much spent my day on the internet (DU, Netflix) using a laptop (Dell), drinking beer (Sierra Nevada), eating a burger (Sylvester's), and breathing oxygen (global atmosphere). Did I join any 'cotts with any of those? Should I have? Would I have been pleased if I'd known? It's definite spinny-head territory, when you think on it...

REP

(21,691 posts)
4. I tend not to give much notice to what "Mommy" groups want
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 08:41 PM
Aug 2013

After all, Susan Smith, Rosemary West, Diane Down, etc were Mommys too.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
5. Human rights is a FAR bigger issue to me than gun control
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:43 PM
Aug 2013

Honestly, gun control is pretty low on my radar.

Im more concerned about equal rights (my top concern), privacy rights, free speech, separation of church and state, living wages, the wealth gap, the environment, ending capital punishment, protecting reproductive rights, collective bargaining, promoting equality, etc., etc., etc. than I am about guns.

If there was a starbucks somewhere near here i would go there to show my support for their stance on marriage equality in a heartbeat.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
6. +1
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:49 PM
Aug 2013

The gun violence problem in this country is horrific, don't get me wrong. But the failure of even mild gun-control legislation in Congress shows that, perhaps, relatively little can be done for the time being. Seems more productive to focus on some of the other issues you just named.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. People who call for "boycotts" like this don't understand how they work
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:27 AM
Aug 2013

A boycott is when an oppressed population chooses to abstain from commerce rather than engage in the commerce that exploits them.

So, Indians either stopped eating salt, or made their own. African Americans stopped riding the bus. Etc. It's a divestment of the oppressed population from the economics of their oppression, and it can be insanely effective. Whereas simply showing a company or state that you're pissed off generally doesn't do anything except make the consumer feel better.

DMark69

(1 post)
9. I don't usually listen to people who tell me to boycott companies
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:47 PM
Aug 2013

I use my own knowledge of the companies and make my own decision as to weather or not to patronize them.

Since this thread actually covers my top two priorities I use in making voting decisions on election day I will address them both.

Having said that, I am a married gay male and my husband and I like Starbucks coffee (he likes frapachino more than coffee actually). Since they support our right to be married, and they have a good product I will patronize them.

Your other point is on guns. I am a gun owner. In fact one of my handguns was used by it's then owner, my uncle, to defend his life by taking the life of an illegal immigrant in TX that was attacking him. I am a believer in the 2nd amendment, and it's purpose being to give teeth to the other amendments. I therefore support Starbucks on that point too. I may have to pick up a coffee after work today.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
11. And has shitty coffee!
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:50 PM
Aug 2013

I started my starbucks boycott years ago when they changed their coffee. Cant stand it now tastes like bitter ass to me.


Give me Coffee bean and tea leaf any day over Starbucks.

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