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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:01 PM Aug 2013

If strikes are ordered against the Syrian regime the service members who carry out those orders are:

A) Dutifully obeying their Commander-in-Chief

B) War criminals if they do not refuse those orders

C) Honorable men and women accepting risk for something higher than themselves

D) Victims of the poverty draft

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If strikes are ordered against the Syrian regime the service members who carry out those orders are: (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 OP
Most of the above, to varying degrees. leveymg Aug 2013 #1
What are the variations that permit someone to be an honorable war criminal? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #3
Don't say it in Russian? Don't say it in German, say it in broken English leveymg Aug 2013 #10
Yes. arcane1 Aug 2013 #2
A,C, and for many of them, D. dawg Aug 2013 #4
Sorry, not going to shit on the troops. NightWatcher Aug 2013 #5
There was a bumper sticker HeiressofBickworth Aug 2013 #6
"We apparently don't learn from our mistakes." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author mattvermont Aug 2013 #8
This is not a difficult question. They are volunteers who swear an oath. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #9
A, C, and sometimes D. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #11
E. Poor bastards caught between a rock and a hard place. Nay Aug 2013 #12
A,C,D. nt rrneck Aug 2013 #13
A and C. n/t Skip Intro Aug 2013 #14

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. Don't say it in Russian? Don't say it in German, say it in broken English
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:46 PM
Aug 2013

Cold, lonely Puritan, what are you fighting for? Sister Morphine knows the answer to that question.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
4. A,C, and for many of them, D.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:06 PM
Aug 2013

It isn't a soldier's place to question or second-guess orders like these once they are given. But it *is* our duty to question and second-guess the politicians who give the orders.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
6. There was a bumper sticker
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:15 PM
Aug 2013

What if they gave a war and nobody came.

I'm sad at the prospect of getting into yet another middle-east war. For those who do the dirty work, I feel sorry for them. Sorry that they bought the propaganda that the military was an economic career choice and sorry that they are going to be fucked. If we attack Syria, there WILL be repercussions -- which means flag-draped coffins flying into a military airfield to their grieving families.

We simply can't be the policeman of the world. We've done it before to our great personal and financial loss. We apparently don't learn from our mistakes.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. "We apparently don't learn from our mistakes."
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:20 PM
Aug 2013

1. It's not a "we" thing as so many oppose this.

2. the current decision makers told us they understood us when we said we had learned this lesson and wanted the guilty parties replaced. Now they have reneged on their earlier promises.

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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. This is not a difficult question. They are volunteers who swear an oath.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:34 PM
Aug 2013

The answer should be easy to discern if you read the next paragraph, which is the oath sworn by those who enlist in The Armed Forces of The United States of America (emphasis mine). Since the economy is arguably getting better by leaps and bounds each and every day, week, and month, there IS NO "poverty draft". Therefore, those who enlist are "Honorable men and women accepting risk for something higher than themselves", and whoever gives the order to strike Syria over chemical attacks whose origin is still in question should in my mind be deemed "war criminals".

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

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