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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 06:32 AM Feb 2012

Supersize it- Amazing fact about America's Obesity Crisis

Today, the state with the lowest adult obesity rate would have had the highest rate in 1995,"...


Let that sink in for a second... this isn't about genetics and thyroid problems.


New Report: Colorado is Least Obese State in the Nation

Washington, D.C.

- Colorado was named the least obese state in the country, according to the eighth annual F as in Fat: How Obesity Threatens America's Future 2011, a report from the Trust for America's Health (TFAH) and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF). Colorado's adult obesity rate is 19.8 percent.

Adult obesity rates increased in 16 states in the past year and did not decline in any state. Twelve states now have obesity rates over 30 percent. Four years ago, only one state was above 30 percent. Obesity rates exceed 25 percent in more than two-thirds of states (38 states)

This year, for the first time, report examined how the obesity epidemic has grown over the past two decades:

Over the past 15 years, seven states have doubled their rate of obesity.

Another 10 states nearly doubled their obesity rate, with increased of at least 90 percent,

and 22 more states saw obesity rates increase by at least 80 percent

Fifteen years ago, Colorado had an obesity rate of 10.7 percent and was ranked second least obese state in the nation. The obesity rate in Colorado increased more than 80 percent over the last 15 years.

Since 1995, obesity rates have grown the fastest in Oklahoma, Alabama, and Tennessee, and have grown the slowest in Washington, D.C., Colorado, and Connecticut.

Ten years ago, no state had an obesity rate above 24 percent, and now 43 states have higher obesity rates than the state that was the highest in 2000.


http://healthyamericans.org/reports/obesity2011/release.php?stateid=CO


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Supersize it- Amazing fact about America's Obesity Crisis (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 OP
Eat less and exercise. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #1
It's not that easy. Initech Feb 2012 #27
Not just that laundry_queen Feb 2012 #29
Too much Rum? CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #42
I have a relative that has to be Gluten Free. But I don't know what it is. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #30
Try this CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #31
No, it's not. Far from it. It CAN be done, though. moriah Feb 2012 #38
A friend of mine got a small group of fatties together Yupster Feb 2012 #35
Oh goodness, I wish I could lose on 2000 calories! ;) moriah Feb 2012 #40
Congrats on your progress Yupster Feb 2012 #47
Thanks! And yeah, I'm more on the midget end of the scale... moriah Feb 2012 #48
Here are the top 10 NJCher Feb 2012 #2
Your Govenor is a good role model Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #3
that list is not of the most obese states hfojvt Feb 2012 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Feb 2012 #4
Red states tend to be fatter get the red out Feb 2012 #6
Many of the Southern states tend to be more rural, too. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #9
Not to mention hot. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #13
Good point get the red out Feb 2012 #14
We have the same issues with public transportation--what there is of it--here, too. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #33
I think the driving has an influence, but to me the rural obesity seems more cultural in origin Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #22
You're right. ParkieDem Feb 2012 #49
Southern food also tends to be really fattening. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #10
How can you say that? izquierdista Feb 2012 #11
And probably double the amount of dairy product joeybee12 Feb 2012 #18
Another goddamned South-bashing opportunity. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #19
Just observing statistic get the red out Feb 2012 #32
I think the key variable is income abowsh Feb 2012 #45
Not so much lack of education, but continuation of cooking that Fawke Em Feb 2012 #36
Yeah, just the gameday food consumption in the SEC states alone... jumptheshadow Feb 2012 #41
You've got that right! get the red out Feb 2012 #46
City planning also plays a role. surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #8
Typical MSM stuff KurtNYC Feb 2012 #16
Education plays into both of those factors. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #23
Eat mo' carbs geckosfeet Feb 2012 #5
I eat a huge amount of carbs obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #26
Good luck with that. geckosfeet Feb 2012 #43
carbs = sugar shanti Feb 2012 #50
My fiancee lost over fifty pounds in the last four months. Codeine Feb 2012 #7
The definition of "obesity" was changed in 1998. Romulox Feb 2012 #12
But if people aren't "sick" why should they dole out money to get better? TalkingDog Feb 2012 #15
Also BMI index has changed... Javaman Feb 2012 #17
So to be obese now you need to weigh more? Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #20
No, you weigh less. Javaman Feb 2012 #24
Interesting how conservative politics in a state and obesity JDPriestly Feb 2012 #21
Sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrup and Estrogen... Bigmack Feb 2012 #25
I've been trying to eliminate sodium and HFCS as much as possible. Initech Feb 2012 #28
Believe it or not pecwae Feb 2012 #34
Have they compared the states with fast-growing obesity rates... jumptheshadow Feb 2012 #39
Highly dishonest not to mention the change in the definition of obesity eridani Feb 2012 #44
We need to be careful. This topic could lead to offensive comments. Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #51
That comment was completely inappropriate. Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #54
People were much thinner when everyone smoked 20 years ago. Mumble Feb 2012 #52
Public health problem. Time for someone to write The Jungle II Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #53

Initech

(100,079 posts)
27. It's not that easy.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:25 PM
Feb 2012

I've been trying every which way that way and it doesn't seem to work. I've been researching gluten free diets and it seems to be far more effective than that horrible lap band surgery.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
29. Not just that
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:30 PM
Feb 2012

but I have a friend who is a scientist and he does research on fats, and he posted several articles on FB that show the amount of chemicals that one has in one's body can affect the way the body metabolizes fat. Very interesting stuff.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
30. I have a relative that has to be Gluten Free. But I don't know what it is.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:46 PM
Feb 2012

I had a shipmate that had the lap band. As for me Eat less and Exercise always works. GL. Swimming works the best.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
31. Try this
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:48 PM
Feb 2012

No fried, No Sugar, No Bread. I do that when I want to lose fast. Then a little exercise. Takes about 6 weeks.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
38. No, it's not. Far from it. It CAN be done, though.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:20 AM
Feb 2012

A few tips that helped me:

1) Before starting a diet, log your calories that you're currently consuming normally and your regular amount of exercise, and if you gained or maintained during that time. A two week window was a good idea for me to figure out where my metabolism was. If you believe part of the problem for you is compulsive overeating, log your mood and level of hunger when you ate as well -- were you happy? Sad? Bored? (That came from my therapist.) Yo-yo dieting and low calorie diets really screw up your metabolism, so the standard guidelines for calories for your height may not be right for you... they weren't for me.

2) I then went over that food log and tried to see places where I could cut calories without feeling like I was stinting myself. Honestly, just writing down everything I put in my mouth helped me to start cutting them subconsciously -- I noticed the calories I consumed during the 2nd week were lower than the first, but as I said, I have an issue with compulsive overeating, and the act of keeping the log helped me see when I was eating for emotional reasons or eating because my body needed food. The very first thing I did was cut out sodas and replace them with Crystal Light Energy, but you'll see patterns in your own eating.

3) Don't make all the changes all at once. It's harder to stick with a dramatic change. I found other little things I could do, but implemented them one new change a month, giving each enough time to become a habit.

4) Don't go too low-calorie. If you're only eating 1600 calories and maintaining, a 500 calorie a day cut is going to be too much (that's a pound a week by the math). I lost faster at 1350 calories a day than I did at 1200 or 1000, even though the math would say otherwise. (The 1350 came from adding an extra Greek yogurt in when I hit a plateau when I was eating 1200). Our bodies aren't meant to starve, and actively fight against it.

5) Look for small ways to increase your daily activity level, but start slow and be mindful of your body. If you hurt yourself -- it's HARD on the body to exercise when you're carrying around an extra 100 lbs like I was when I started -- you'll just set yourself back. Look for things you can make into habits. When I'd finally lost enough to handle walking a distance on concrete without giving my bum knee too much pain, I found a buddy and walked the path around my office on my breaks. It helped a lot, even if it was just 10 minutes three times a day.

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I could go on, but I don't want this to be a novel or seem like I'm preaching. But I qualified for gastric bypass surgery three years ago, and I'm 110 lbs lighter today. If it's to the point you've researched surgery... I don't want anyone to have it that doesn't absolutely have to. My mom had it, and while she doesn't regret it, complications from it nearly killed her twice.

If you want, PM me.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
35. A friend of mine got a small group of fatties together
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:53 AM
Feb 2012

We each put $ 100 in a pot.

At the end of a month whoever loses the greatest percentage of their weight gets the cash.

It's really inspired me. I've gone to a 2,000 calorie a day diet and lost 14 pounds the first two weeks without a lot of pain.

I don't care about the 100 bucks. Losing 20 pounds would be well worth the $ 100.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
40. Oh goodness, I wish I could lose on 2000 calories! ;)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:33 AM
Feb 2012

Too many years of screwing up my metabolism, I suppose. Yes, I'm jealous, but also very happy for you!

I am maintaining right now on 1400 and light exercise. I'm trying to work now on building muscle rather than cardio now that I'm at the weight I am happy with -- went from a size 20 to a size 4, and that's the smallest Wally World's misses section carries, so I really don't want to get lower (I'm at a 23 BMI, highest was a 44.6.).

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
47. Congrats on your progress
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:28 AM
Feb 2012

Don't be too jealous.

The fact that I can lose a lot of weight on 2,000 calories a day doesn't paint a good picture of where I'm starting from.

In my defense, at least a little, I'm a 6'3'' male.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
48. Thanks! And yeah, I'm more on the midget end of the scale...
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:48 PM
Feb 2012

It's actually saying something really good about you, if you think about it -- you haven't trashed your metabolism. Nutrisystem has guys eat 1500 to lose 1-2 lbs a week after the initial faster loss. And too low of calories is a baaaaad thing.... the body says "WTF are you doing to me!" and tries to act like it's caveman winter. Another friend who admittedly is shorter than you lost on 1600 but any lower and he started getting into diminishing returns.

If things slow down and you're not able to lose a pound a week, exercise will likely be really helpful, especially if you're already losing at this calorie level. I wouldn't go lower than you are now calorie-wise, and be really careful about injury. It took me 40 lbs gone before I could walk 10 minutes on concrete three times a day without making my bum knee scream at me. If exercise doesn't seem to help break a plateau, it may sound counter-intuitive, but try *increasing* calories (in 100-150 calorie increments, give each increase two to four weeks to see if it's enough, and make the additional calories protein-heavy and carb-light). You're likely pretty muscular, 2000 may not be enough calories in the long-term to keep you out of starvation mode.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
2. Here are the top 10
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:00 AM
Feb 2012

1. Oklahoma; 2. Alabama; 3. Tennessee; 4. Kansas; 5. Mississippi; 6. (tie) Georgia; and Kentucky; 8. (tie) Louisiana; and West Virginia; 10. South Carolina

My state, NJ, was 35.

I changed my diet--now it's mostly vegetarian. Lost weight without even intending to. Got rid of the salt--now I don't use any, and I flavor foods with herbs, which is way more interesting than just salt.


Cher

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. Your Govenor is a good role model
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:16 AM
Feb 2012

on what not to do.... congrats on your change of diet, I do three walks a day even if my arthritis hurts. I never had a weight problem but exercise will help almost any health problem including depression..

If you can walk and not drive somewhere do it even if it takes longer.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
37. that list is not of the most obese states
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:17 AM
Feb 2012

it is a list of the states where the growth of obesity rate was highest between 1995 and 2008.

Part of that must have happened when I moved to Kansas in 2002.

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
6. Red states tend to be fatter
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:12 AM
Feb 2012

Lack of education seems to be a predictor, as well as poverty rate, and culture.

There's a big cultural emphasis on "real food" here in Kentucky; real food being meat, fat, and really bad carbs.

My state is top 10 in just about all things bad AND basketball. Tied with Georgia on this one, hmm, that would be fine in SEC football, LOL (not likely).

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
9. Many of the Southern states tend to be more rural, too.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:37 AM
Feb 2012

Everything is spread out, so one has to drive everywhere, even in the more urban areas. There are fewer sidewalks and bike trails. No shoulders on the road, so riding a bike can be really risky. My old Schwinn and mt. bike are both literally rotting in my garage, because I have no safe place to ride either, without having drive 30 miles or more. I used to ride on the roads here when I first came down, but I had one close call too many. That was more than 20 years ago, and the traffic is far worse now. A couple of weeks ago, a couple on a tandem bike got creamed right about where I had my last close call. The husband didn't survive.

I have also seen people start up the car in the post office parking lot, and drive across a not-busy street to the grocery store. We're talking a 40 ft. walk at the most. I used to live 2 blocks from that post office. One Saturday, I went to check my PO box, so walked over there. On my way, some guy commented, "Must be a 'poor day', huh?" I guess only people who are too poor to drive walk around here.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
14. Good point
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:40 AM
Feb 2012

I am very fortunate to live in a city in a neighborhood with sidewalks so I walk our dog at least an hour every morning (herding dog exercise program, get out of the house or get barked at). But I grew up in an area where if you lived very far out into the country, forget about riding a bike, walking, or anything. Too dangerous.

And having a car is considered a necessity while public transportation is looked down on where I live. The righties around here would just love the chance to kill the bus system, which is really just hating on anyone who doesn't have the means to have a car. If it weren't for the large University population they might get there way.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
33. We have the same issues with public transportation--what there is of it--here, too.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:27 PM
Feb 2012

It's looked down upon as something only poor people use. That being said, this isn't necessarily a Southern phenomenon. Just spend some time on Chicago's expressways during "rush hour", if one doesn't believe me. Yes, lots of people there use the excellent public transportation, which I miss dearly. However, tens of thousands more won't use it, and would rather sit in traffic for hours. Most of them are suburbanites who commute into the city. And, then there's southern California...

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
22. I think the driving has an influence, but to me the rural obesity seems more cultural in origin
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:51 PM
Feb 2012

I've lived in cities over the past couple decades (San Fran., Wash. DC and Portland) and there is relatively little obesity within city limits. As you start to go out to the suburbs, it increases, and then rural areas seem to have the highest rate of obese people. There are different expectations/habits related to eating in the city vs. the rural areas.

ParkieDem

(494 posts)
49. You're right.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:55 PM
Feb 2012

Rural areas used to be populated with farmers, who were isolated from the rest of the world but worked their asses off physically during the day.

This isn't as true anymore, and farming isn't as physically intensive as it used to be. So, someone who is out enjoying quiet rural life still has to drive everywhere to get groceries, clothes, work, etc., and probably isn't doing much to exercise when s/he is home.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
11. How can you say that?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:25 AM
Feb 2012


If you use strawberry cheesecake, you get your serving of fruit for the day.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
32. Just observing statistic
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:50 PM
Feb 2012

And my own eyes, considering I live in one of the states with a large percentage of obese folks.

The truth doesn't become a lie just because someone doesn't like it.

 

abowsh

(45 posts)
45. I think the key variable is income
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:27 AM
Feb 2012

Most people are lazy, and quick, cheap food is usually very unhealthy. This is why so many people go to fast food, because it's quick and cheap.

You will see just as many obese people in the inner city of New York as you would in Atlanta. While it can be just as inexpensive to eat healthy, that usually requires preparing the food on your own. For many people, thatis just too much work when KFC can feed their entire family for less than $10 and the only effort required is walking to the car.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
36. Not so much lack of education, but continuation of cooking that
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:59 AM
Feb 2012

doesn't fit the amount of exercise.

The South - AFTER slavery (let's not get into that debate) - had fertile ground and farms. Not so much anymore, but people here still eat like they're tilling the back 40 after lunch.

Instead, they're tilling the last 40 on the intelligent quotient whilst watching TV.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
46. You've got that right!
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:31 AM
Feb 2012

Once at a football game my husband went to get something to eat and when he came back I looked at this enormous sausage on bun thing he had and said OH MY GOD! That was before we went inside the stadium. And the tailgate culture is huge, even here in Lexington at a "basketball school".

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
16. Typical MSM stuff
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:10 AM
Feb 2012

The real correlation is between poverty and obesity.

Obesity correlates most strongly with 1) poverty and 2) church attendance.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
50. carbs = sugar
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:02 PM
Feb 2012

it's not healthy to eat a lot of sugar. if you eat a lot of carbs, it WILL catch up to you.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
7. My fiancee lost over fifty pounds in the last four months.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:43 AM
Feb 2012

She started eating better and she hits the gym regularly. She gave up soda and switched to a mostly-vegan diet -- but I think the latter was just a ploy to convince me to make dinner more often. Calories in vs. calories out worked despite all the howls from the usual suspects about that sort of thing not being effective.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
12. The definition of "obesity" was changed in 1998.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:29 AM
Feb 2012
The federal government plans to change its definition of what is a healthy weight, a controversial move that would classify millions more Americans as being overweight.

Under the new guidelines, an estimated 29 million Americans now considered normal weight will be redefined as overweight and advised to do everything they can to prevent further weight gain. Those who are already experiencing health effects, such as high blood pressure, elevated cholesterol or diabetes, will be encouraged to lose small amounts of weight -- about six to 12 pounds -- to bring them back to safer weight levels.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/guideposts/fitness/optimal.htm


Where is the scientific basis for this change, btw? Where is the HUGE increase in deaths related to morbid obesity?

/not saying there isn't a problem

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
17. Also BMI index has changed...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:23 PM
Feb 2012

When I was at 205 I as considered obese. I am 6'2". So I dropped 25 pounds.

I'm at 180 now, and still on the high end of the acceptable level.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
24. No, you weigh less.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:55 PM
Feb 2012

once upon a time the BMI for obesity for someone my height was no where near 205. I think 215 was the "obese" level.

The lowered the BMI range.

So what was considered normal years ago, is now considered obese.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
21. Interesting how conservative politics in a state and obesity
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:46 PM
Feb 2012

correlate not entirely but pretty remarkably.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
25. Sugar and High Fructose Corn Syrup and Estrogen...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:58 PM
Feb 2012

... are increasing in our food.

Sugar should be a controlled substance, HFCS should be banned, and the estrogen-like substances like Bisphenol A and soy products need to be strictly controlled.

Sugar and HFCS are everywhere.... look at yoghurt... 25-35 grams of sugar per serving, and many times it's from HFCS.

Not making excuses for people not exercising or eating properly, but that bad shit is everywhere in our food chain.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
28. I've been trying to eliminate sodium and HFCS as much as possible.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:26 PM
Feb 2012

And you know what? It's been working for me.

pecwae

(8,021 posts)
34. Believe it or not
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:09 PM
Feb 2012

when I cut out HFCS products I lost weight. I didn't necessarily cut out all sugars, though, only the HFCS. That really proved to me what the stuff was capable of doing.

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
39. Have they compared the states with fast-growing obesity rates...
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:32 AM
Feb 2012

to the Krispy Kreme store location maps?

I am not kidding about this, when KK opened a few stores in NY, I personally knew of a few people who went off the rails in their dietary choices.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
44. Highly dishonest not to mention the change in the definition of obesity
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:04 AM
Feb 2012

It jumped dramatically in a single year--1998.

 

Mumble

(201 posts)
52. People were much thinner when everyone smoked 20 years ago.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:11 PM
Feb 2012

Instead of smoking they now eat and eat and eat. Pick your vice.....food...or...smokes...which is better or worse???

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