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Wardrums.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/46530898#46530655
Sunday morning Chris Hayes and guest took on the warmongering currently underway in Washington and the Republican's total denial that the war in Iraq ever occurred.
First segment ("Lessons Unlearned from the Bush Years" compares clips by Dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Rick Santorum and others as they recycle their 2003 warhawking speeches.
The second segment includes a panel of guests, and examines what Iranian politics look like today, whether an "Arab Spring" is brewing in Iran (no) and what threat Iran poses to the West. On that topic, the Republican presidential candidates are very vocal about the need to keep Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, while the Obama administration has been consistent in saying that Iran does not have, and isn't trying to acquire, nukes.
Noteworthy is the fact that the same people pushing for war with Iran are the same people who pushed hardest for war with Iraq.
Late in the segment, Zainab Salbi, author of Between Two Worlds joins Hooman Madj, author of The Ayatollah's Democracy in heated debate with Anne-Marie Slaughter, former Obama State Department Official. Slaughter tries to make a "nuclear domino theory" case for preventing nukes spreading across the Arab world. While this part gets a bit heated, cooler heads prevail and there's a rational discussion of how to bring Iran into the world community. The clip from Family Guy is worth the whole thing.
Finally, there's discussion of Israel and how they fit in the mix. Ms. Slaughter is asked directly if the US can stop Israel from attacking Iran.
Together, the two segments run about 23 minutes.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... is this notion that "we may not be able to stop Israel". SO FUCKING WHAT? If so, the answer is NOT that we have to join in, which seems to be the implicit idea being floated.
There is a large faction of people (not necessarily myself included) that believe that the "superpowers" will start a war to divert attention from the fact that the economies of the world are failing.
Their idea is getting more credible by the day.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)We didn't run in to fight Russia when Georgia shot at Russians, and I'm confident we won't rush to help Israel if they pick that fight.
Bok_Tukalo
(4,323 posts)malaise
(269,026 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)which is helpful in deciding if I want to follow the link or not.
thanks!
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)see how much they beat those war drums then... little pathetic sociopaths with power who make others kill for them.
eppur_se_muova
(36,265 posts)which is a non-Arabic country.
Iran has seen large-scale protests against its government, but for rather different reasons than the Arab countries. (Iranians voted for their Parliament, remember?). This is their third attempt to establish a democratic legislature in the last century, so their political history in this regard is quite different from their Arab neighbors.
The history of Persia goes back thousands of years, well before the Arabs came sweeping out of the hills and adopted Islam. Iranians do not like to be confused with "Arabs".