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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:07 PM Sep 2013

So Greenwald's latest bombshell is that US spy agencies spied on other countries

See here ---->>>http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014583137

This is awful. Thank gawd for Glenn Greenwald.

Without him we would have never known that the CIA and NSA and collect intelligence on foreign countries and their leaders.

Sure countries have spied on one another for centuries, but I was always under the assumption that US intelligence agencies did not engage in such behavior.

Thankfully Glenn Greenwald has exposed them.

Somebody give this man a Nobel Peace Prize already.

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So Greenwald's latest bombshell is that US spy agencies spied on other countries (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 OP

He should ask Assange why he never released files on Russia. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #1

Funny you asked Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #2

Ah yes.... Russia. Adrahil Sep 2013 #3

Are you really this far in the dark? Have you ever seen some of the James Bond movies? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #4

Nobel Peace Prizes don't have the same ring to them these days. rug Sep 2013 #5

So the presidents of Brazil and Mexico are suspected terrorists ? Luminous Animal Sep 2013 #6

The US spied on other countries well before sep 11 Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #12

Good God! Do you mean the Black Chamber is back? And here I thought... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #7

Note to St Glenn: Journalists are frequently shot in Mexico, but on the bright side, UTUSN Sep 2013 #8

You always use the word "countries" instead of Presidents David Krout Sep 2013 #9

It's awful Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #10

Those ingrates should be proud and pleased that we spy on them. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #11

Wait, I thought his next release jazzimov Sep 2013 #13

Cesca nailed t... SidDithers Sep 2013 #14

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)

1. He should ask Assange why he never released files on Russia.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:09 PM

Sep 2013

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

2. Funny you asked

Reply to KittyWampus (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:13 PM

Sep 2013

From the Kremlin's mouthpiece:

http://rt.com/news/julian-assange-rt-exclusive-617/

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)

3. Ah yes.... Russia.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:18 PM

Sep 2013

The land of openness and human rights.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

4. Are you really this far in the dark? Have you ever seen some of the James Bond movies?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:23 PM

Sep 2013

You are saying how great GG is, he got his information through spying, do you think spying is wrong?

rug

(82,333 posts)

5. Nobel Peace Prizes don't have the same ring to them these days.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:25 PM

Sep 2013

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)

6. So the presidents of Brazil and Mexico are suspected terrorists ?

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:25 PM

Sep 2013

Also in Hong Kong, when he met Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden said documents involving espionage to President Dilma.

He said: "the tactics of the U.S. government since September 11 is to say that everything is justified by terrorism, scaring the people to accept these measures as necessary. But most of the spying they do not have anything to do with national security, is to obtain an unfair advantage over other nations in their industries and commerce in economic agreements. "

Last month the magazine "Time" published exclusively a document proving that American intelligence is too commercial.

This is a letter written by the current U.S. Ambassador to Brazil, Thomas Shannon, in 2009, when he was secretary of state.

He thanks the NSA the information passed to American diplomacy before the 5th Summit of the Americas - a meeting between the heads of state of the continent to discuss the region's commercial and diplomatic.

In the letter, Thomas Shannon wrote: "more than 100 reports we received from the agency gave us a deep understanding of the plans and intentions of other summit participants and allowed our diplomats were well prepared to advise President Obama on how to deal with controversial issues" .

"On trade issues, know what others are thinking before the multilateral meetings is how to play poker knowing which cards to everyone at the table," said Bramford.

Another document obtained exclusively by Fantastic says that an entire division of the NSA is dedicated to the international policy and commercial activities, with a sector in charge of Western Europe, Japan, Mexico and Brazil.

http://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2013/09/documentos-da-nsa-apontam-dilma-rousseff-como-alvo-de-espionagem.html

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

12. The US spied on other countries well before sep 11

Reply to Luminous Animal (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:58 PM

Sep 2013

And much of it had absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. This will continue into the future.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)

7. Good God! Do you mean the Black Chamber is back? And here I thought...

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:35 PM

Sep 2013

Gentlemen do not read each other's mail.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)

8. Note to St Glenn: Journalists are frequently shot in Mexico, but on the bright side,

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:44 PM

Sep 2013

transporting contraband via mules is an art form there, such as in crops, so there are ideas aplenty for thumbdrives (piñatas?)!1 But since SNOWDEN isn't a journalist, Mexico might be a viable destination for him since he favors paragons of freedom and human rights like China, Russia, and some Latin American countries.

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[font size=5]Drugs hidden in jalapenos and Honda seized[/font]

May 30, 2013 by ADI News Services
A 34-year-old Mexican national was arrested on Tuesday in connection with the seizure of nearly 3,300 pounds of marijuana found in a tractor-trailer at the Nogales, Arizona commercial port facility.

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David Krout

(423 posts)

9. You always use the word "countries" instead of Presidents

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:46 PM

Sep 2013

Could it be that you feel its creepy to admit that the USA is these Presidents' emails?

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

10. It's awful

Reply to David Krout (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:52 PM

Sep 2013

Greenwald is a hero for revealing that spy agencies spy.

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

11. Those ingrates should be proud and pleased that we spy on them.

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:54 PM

Sep 2013

Even if they are supposed to be our allies.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)

13. Wait, I thought his next release

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:12 PM

Sep 2013

was supposed to be embarrassing to the British government?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

14. Cesca nailed t...

Reply to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:21 PM

Sep 2013

Bob Cesca @bobcesca_go

Repackaging common knowledge using scary words seems to be Greenwald's entire career right now.7:54 PM - 1 Sep 2013

30 Retweets 12 favorites ReplyRetweet

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/09/02/a-tweet-or-two/

h/t to Cha for posting it in another thread.

Sid

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