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Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
8. It takes courage to bomb for peace, or kill for life, or even fuck for fidelity, even more so
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:33 PM
Sep 2013

To be courageous enough to kill without your gang members around with their guns aimed to help you perform the life saving projectile surgery usually required to promote life.

I don't think life is fair enough for it to be so, but I feel such courage and devotion to peaceful interactions with the global community should be rewarded with a second peace prize, especially in light of the courage it takes to promote such peace unilaterally, don't you agree?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Obama can't even BUY himself a coalition.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 02:28 PM
Sep 2013

No country in their right mind will touch Syria with a ten-foot pole. Yet Obama plunges ahead...

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
5. Everyone's exhausted.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 02:43 PM
Sep 2013

It takes a lot of capital to fund even "strategic air strikes."

I also think most countries have had it up to the eyeballs with hearing the US constantly crying wolf in the Middle-East. The hard fact is that nothing has changed in the area in the last forty years other than outsiders making the region more unstable with its meddling.

That's not to say I'm never in favor of intervention, but only intervention with both world community support and a solid plan of action with verifiable results and alternatives. Lobbing missiles in order to "send a message" is not such a plan.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
9. Exactly....
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 10:37 PM
Sep 2013

....and what if Assad doesn't "get" the message? More missles? Or do we carpet-bomb Damascus? There doesn't seem to be any viable plan, just an emotional knee-jerk reaction. Syria is another Tarbaby....we can either get trapped in a sticky mess we can't escape from, or just stay the hell out of the fight like the rest of the civilized world has figured out is the best option. Let Russia and Saudi Arabia bleed themselves in their proxy war.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
10. Yeah, he "plunged" right into asking Congress to vote on it - after they INSISTED.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

Why are you so invested in portraying the President as a reckless warmonger?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Because only he and his synchophants are dying to drop missles on Damascus.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 10:50 PM
Sep 2013

The entire civilized world wants nothing to do with that Tarbaby. Its another decades long quagmire. Let Russia and Saudi Arabia knock themselves silly over it.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. And the only reason Poland was there, is because they love us to the nth degree
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 02:29 PM
Sep 2013

And I can understand why they feel so grateful to us in terms of the World War 2 history.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
6. I remember that much of the "free world" stood behind the U.S. in support of fighting terrorism
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:01 PM
Sep 2013

and George W. Bush used that to do whatever he or his beneficiaries deemed profitable, and thus spoiled any opportunity for future chances to validly prevent atrocities.

After George W. Bush, I doubt the U.S. could have walked into the camps in 1945 ...

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