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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:51 PM Feb 2012

This is in-frickin-sane!!! Pennsylvania poised to enact most restrictive abortion law of 2012

In addition to mandating the much-maligned transvaginal ultrasound requirements since rejected by the state of Virginia, Pennsylvania legislators proposed strongly encouraging women to view and listen to the ultrasounds, forcing technicians to give the women personalized copies of the results and mandating how long before any abortion the ultrasound much be preformed — and that’s just for starters.

That last requirement has already been passed and struck down in Louisiana, partially over concerns of patients’ privacy and potential risks for women in abusive relationships, Nash said.

“This bill definitely suffers the legislators-playing-doctor problem. … There are a number of requirements in this bill that are medically unnecessary,” Nash said, pointing out that so many requirements packed into the 22-page bill could make it logistically difficult for abortion providers to comply with them. “This bill is something that would be unacceptable to most women seeking an abortion.”

Additionally, Nash points out that the length of the legislation hides bizarre and unprecedented requirements, such as asking women who gets an ultrasound more than 14 days before her abortion to view a state-approved video on fetal gestation. The bill, unlike many other ultrasound requirements, does offer exceptions for victims of rape and incest; the bill does not require victims to have reported the incidents to the authorities.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/27/pennsylvania-poised-to-enact-most-restrictive-abortion-law-of-2012/

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This is in-frickin-sane!!! Pennsylvania poised to enact most restrictive abortion law of 2012 (Original Post) one_voice Feb 2012 OP
This is 2012,isn't it? Swede Feb 2012 #1
Oh, but they don't really intend to put obstructions in women's way. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #3
They honestly think women are too stupid to know what a fetus is Warpy Feb 2012 #2
That's not it at all. toddwv Feb 2012 #4
agree... AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #31
Making people view a "state-approved video" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #5
Was it produced by Leni Riefenstahl????? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #7
Sounds like "FEMA Camp" stuff to me Canuckistanian Feb 2012 #8
But we still can't use that word. atreides1 Feb 2012 #19
what decade is this? It just doesn't seem real.... beyurslf Feb 2012 #6
When can we put women in burqas like they do in Afghanistan? nt Selatius Feb 2012 #9
The so-called party of "small government" sure loves to get between a woman neverforget Feb 2012 #10
Talk about government over reach nobodyspecial Feb 2012 #11
Elections have consequences Thrill Feb 2012 #12
How long before they add "and wear a Scarlet A" to these bills? suffragette Feb 2012 #13
Damn Southerners.. Fumesucker Feb 2012 #14
LOL, love it! Ishoutandscream2 Feb 2012 #17
Dems should run against state-sanctioned rape Vinca Feb 2012 #15
Seriously, Pennsylvania needs to unload that Pedophile enabler LynneSin Feb 2012 #16
With all the Republicans inside a woman's uterus, it's amazing they can conceive at all. Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #18
Reaching deep for a reason. timesup Feb 2012 #20
that's MY Pennsyltucky! PCIntern Feb 2012 #21
Same here. Yikes. Orrex Feb 2012 #23
Isn't this outrageous? I try to tell myself that this is nothing more than political theatre and rop tropicanarose Feb 2012 #22
There's an online petition against this starroute Feb 2012 #24
I'm not sure they do any good either, but as you say MadrasT Feb 2012 #26
Signed it DiverDave Mar 2012 #37
Such a freaking shame blitzburgh55 Feb 2012 #25
+1 /nt October Mar 2012 #36
What they are doing evilhime Feb 2012 #27
UGH Iliyah Feb 2012 #28
Is there some prize out there for Most Outrageous Right Wing Ploy? radhika Feb 2012 #29
Pennsylstainia, so glad i left there 30 years ago, although it sure used to be pretty. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #30
Almost as though there's a Competition> Returning Survivor Feb 2012 #32
Message deleted by the DU Administrators dsfgerher Feb 2012 #33
Who's behind all these new anti-abortion bills? Embryo CULTS. Like "Priests for Life"? EWTN/EWRN Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #34
Spam deleted by Skinner (MIR Team) gfhrtsdfw Feb 2012 #35
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
3. Oh, but they don't really intend to put obstructions in women's way.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:29 PM
Feb 2012

This is just all to fire up the base so they will vote in November.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
2. They honestly think women are too stupid to know what a fetus is
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:09 PM
Feb 2012

and that it will turn into a baby 9 months later when it is born, something women seeking an abortion have already acknowledged when they seek to terminate the whole process.

Personally, I think we need to bring tar and feathers back for doctor playing politcians.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
4. That's not it at all.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:33 PM
Feb 2012

They are attempting to shame and humiliate the women into submitting to their beliefs.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
19. But we still can't use that word.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:39 AM
Feb 2012

To describe what they really are!

We know that the Republicans are racist, as seen by the voter ID laws they've enacted...and we know that they are anti-woman...we also know that they support corporations over the people of this country.

Racist, bigots, anti-women, anti-gay, but I guess until they start putting people in camps...

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
10. The so-called party of "small government" sure loves to get between a woman
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:19 AM
Feb 2012

and her doctor.....and in her. Government small enough to fit in a uterus.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
11. Talk about government over reach
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:19 AM
Feb 2012

I guess the concern over big government does not extend to women's rights over their bodies.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
12. Elections have consequences
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:24 AM
Feb 2012

A 10 point win for the Republican in the governor race? What happened to the Democrats? This is what happens when you sit elections out or crossover and vote for the puke

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
16. Seriously, Pennsylvania needs to unload that Pedophile enabler
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
Feb 2012

Corbett must go!

How many boys were raped by Jerry Sandusky because Tom Corbett was more worried about protecting Penn State and running for Governor?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
18. With all the Republicans inside a woman's uterus, it's amazing they can conceive at all.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:26 AM
Feb 2012

Not much room left for an embryo with all the religious hypocrites setting up camp in there.

timesup

(88 posts)
20. Reaching deep for a reason.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:07 PM
Feb 2012

So the Reps are in EPIC FAIL mode and don't give a hoot at this point, and trying to get so much garbage to be repealed, that so much time and money will be wasted addressing this crap that actual good policies will be slowed, whilst they try to scramble themselves
back into power, do not let these turds ever forget this pompous bovine feces they tried to pull: VOTE!
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This is the only reason I could come up with for this stupidity, other than trying to drive healthcare costs higher?!!?


Orrex

(63,220 posts)
23. Same here. Yikes.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:28 PM
Feb 2012

Lots of wilderness between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with just the small island of State College in the middle.

tropicanarose

(240 posts)
22. Isn't this outrageous? I try to tell myself that this is nothing more than political theatre and rop
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:22 PM
Feb 2012

that this being an election year the Rethugs are doing their best to rev up their troops with anti-welfare, anti-abortion rhetoric. Any kind of legislation of this kind will ultimately be struck down. I have to believe that--we won't stand for it! however,it will serve its purpose--uniting the right into thinking that the left doesn't represent their "morals"

I know that this legislation isn't Roe v. Wade, but in speaking to the broader picutre I am sick and tired of the entire abortion issue. We had EIGHT years of President Bird Brain compounded by the the Roberts court that put that idiot in the White House and Roe v. Wade was NEVER overturned. Why the hell do people think that it will be different now? It isn't going to happen.
Just like social security isn't going to be abolished.......these are political hot button issues and they play the public like puppets. WHAT BS

The people of PA will never stand for this horse manure!!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
24. There's an online petition against this
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:45 PM
Feb 2012

I'm never sure if these things do any good -- but it can't hurt. And though most of the signers are Pennsylvanians, it isn't required.

http://signon.org/sign/stop-pennsylvanias-mandatory.fb1?source=s.fb&r_by=468387

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
26. I'm not sure they do any good either, but as you say
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:29 PM
Feb 2012

It can't hurt. *And* I do live in PA.

Thanks for the link.

blitzburgh55

(411 posts)
25. Such a freaking shame
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:09 PM
Feb 2012

because I love my hometown Pittsburgh so much. Time to squish Philly and Pit together and get rid of the middle.

evilhime

(326 posts)
27. What they are doing
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:07 PM
Feb 2012

is making Pennsylvania the non abortion state - virtually making it unavailable without making it illegal contrary to the Federal ruling. Fortunately other more reasonable states like MD and NJ etc. are not that long a drive ... inconvenient for sure but there. I love the way they phrase it as offering women the "opportunity" to get this procedure and see the images whereas in reality it is mandated. What is really sad is that a woman sponsored it . . . talk about a crusading <expletive deleted>. As I saw in another article today... care about them before their born, but don't care about educating the children, helping to provide for them, etc. What hypocritical buggers!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
28. UGH
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:40 PM
Feb 2012

small government huh? I guess women are considered property to the gop males. How about outlawing "oral sex" while they are at it, I mean isn't it killing sperms? How about only allowing 50 years old men and under to obtain enhancement drugs because why would older men need it? Condoms should also be outlawed as well. Younger men should be subject to a penis probe to make sure its working properly, seriously.

These loony goppers are so enthralled about womens' reproductive organs and so concerned about making babies, but where the hell are they once the baby is born?

radhika

(1,008 posts)
29. Is there some prize out there for Most Outrageous Right Wing Ploy?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:23 PM
Feb 2012

Seriously, each Red State is trying to up each other is how far they will go assaulting the dignity of women. Not to mention everything else they are doing.

I think John Waters should make a movie about this bizarre era. A political take on the 'world's dirtiest person competition' that launched his infamous Pink Flamingos.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
30. Pennsylstainia, so glad i left there 30 years ago, although it sure used to be pretty.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:29 PM
Feb 2012

The people are really effed up there.

Response to one_voice (Original post)

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
34. Who's behind all these new anti-abortion bills? Embryo CULTS. Like "Priests for Life"? EWTN/EWRN
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:01 AM
Feb 2012

These are the most likely suspects.

Since there are dozens of states, considering the same kinds of bills at the same time?" Obviously there's a coordinated, systematic, and secret campaign at work here.

Most likely suspect by far: Fr. Frank Pavone of "Priests for Life"; a fulltime, well staffed, "one issue" anti-abortion agency. Originally chartered by the bishops. Even though it has long since descended into the kind of narrow, dis"proportionate" "one-issue" advocacy organization that the Cardinals, if not the bishops, often condemned. (Card. McCarrick; Card. Bernardin; Card. Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI).

What are they really? In their religious fixation on just one issue, they amount to a CULT; the Embryo Cult, we should begin calling it.

For a 700-page white paper, offering 200 religious and rational arguments against anti-abortionism, EWTN? See http://brettongarcia.wordpress.com/

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