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http://fryingpannews.org/2013/09/02/labor-day-news-of-the-weird/Labor Day News of the WEIRD
by Cynthia Strathmann on September 2, 2013
Why are so many Americans wary of labor unions? Unions are, after all, good for everyone who works for a living. In occupations with a high rate of unionization all the workers get paid more, even employees who arent in a union. As rates of unionization have fallen, so has compensation. One might expect unions to be all the rage with anyone who ever put in a hard days work. But this is not always the case, particularly in the United States.
Americans have WEIRD attitudes towards unions as in, Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic. The Canadian behavioralists who coined this acronym were interested in how sweeping generalizations about human psychology and economic behavior might be incorrect if they were based on only one kind of (WEIRD) people, and reviewed a number of cross-cultural studies to make their point. To scholars at the University of British Columbia, Americans often appeared to be the most exceptional; outliers among outliers.
What does this WEIRD-ness have to do with attitudes towards organized labor? Among many of their findings, the researchers noted that in experiments based on game-playing, Americans are eager to punish a luckier player if they think the other person has gotten an unearned reward, even if the punishment comes at a cost to themselves. WEIRD minds are also more individualistic and more likely to focus narrowly and analytically on one small problem while having difficulty seeing objects in a larger context.
These findings offer one explanation for the American tendency to attack union members on the grounds that they are getting something other people dont have say, higher wages or better health insurance even if reducing this compensation is likely to hurt all workers over time. How could we not see this? Americans are looking for details, not the big picture, focusing on small analytic tasks instead of taking a more holistic view. We are also thinking about the problem individualistically, focused more on how to punish particular people than on identifying with them as part of a community.
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tazkcmo
(7,303 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I don't think this article gives a complete picture, but it was an aspect I'd never heard of before so I thought I'd share and see what other people thought.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)It's obvious many people are envious of what other people are getting. Give them some hope that they, too, can get some decent retirement benefits and watch public opinion turn around!
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)It baffles me. Even when the opportunity avails them, they turn it down. Or they decert their union with an election.
A lot of the help labor provides is education on why unions are important, which is sorely needed. Unfortunately union density is at an all-time low, so resources are even more scarce.
I don't think it is a total waste of time to examine this, but wonder what can be done as a society to counter-act this tendency?
Initech
(100,107 posts)MyshkinCommaPrince
(611 posts)The link doesn't wok for me, for some reason.
I live in an area which still has an unusual amount of manufacturing, apparently with some decent-paying union jobs. As far as I can tell, there is strong support for Republican policies in spite of this, mainly tied to gun and abortion issues. But I think the observation about a "punishment-driven" social outlook explains everything well. Many people seem to want a harder, meaner society in which hard, mean people are better able to succeed. Those who are not hard & mean, whether they succeed or fail, seem to be the targets of hatred.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Thank you for pointing that out, strange, they must have just moved it.
I wish the article had gone into more depth on this, like what exactly about our society produces people like this from the time they are young.
I've always been curious about the American antipathy to unions, I think we are the only industrial G-20 country to have right to work laws?
MyshkinCommaPrince
(611 posts)I end up thinking of George Lakoff's "Don't Think of an Elephant" and Thomas Frank's "What's The Matter with Kansas?", both of which seem to touch upon the question from different perspectives.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'm an educator, so I think in terms of human development from very young children. So I think, is there anything we can do to foster a more community-minded outlook from the start? I wonder.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)leftstreet
(36,117 posts)Solidarity and support seem to go against the American bootstrap narrative of distinguishing oneself as blessed and above the rest
As mythologies like Middle Classism and Religion wane, maybe change will happen
DURec
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I've worked for non-profits and even though I met great people and did satisfying work, labor protections were scarce.
When I got a chance to work a union job, even though the pay isn't great for an adjunct, still the officers were doing things like making sure that adjuncts started receiving pay for office hours, etc.
I almost cried the day I got a letter from my local that said "Here, we found a way to pay you more money, so here it is."
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Good post.