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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHeard on NPR station. During the hearing, Grayson asked Kerry
--which rebel groups had specifically asked for our intervention. Kerry had no answer. Still looking for the link.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)At about 1:10.
Skittles
(153,202 posts)yes INDEED
juajen
(8,515 posts)It's a shame there aren't more like him.
LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)It's really sad to say that, but it's the truth.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)questionseverything
(9,661 posts)Al-Qaida-linked rebels launched an assault Wednesday on a regime-held Christian village in the densely populated west of Syria and new clashes erupted near the capital, Damascus part of a brutal battle of attrition each side believes it can win despite more than two years of deadlock.
As the world focused on possible U.S. military action against Syria, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel in the village of Maaloula and shelled the community below, said a nun, speaking by phone from a convent in the village. She spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.
The attack came hours before a Senate panel voted to give President Barack Obama authority to use military force against Syria the first time lawmakers have voted to allow military action since the October 2002 votes authorizing the invasion of Iraq.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-09-04/french-parliament-to-debate-syria-strikes
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Rep. Grayson didn't seem at all happy with Hagel there
pa28
(6,145 posts)Kerry wasn't much better to tell you truth. They're actually snickering among themselves because this congressman doesn't know his place.
We need three dozen more like Grayson.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)and are asked to supply information to the public for the use of airstrikes (missiles) and as always they say it's classified. That's one reason out of many that I don't believe them.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)pushing for "intervention", i.e., war, War, WAR!!! profits, Profits, PROFITS!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)KG
(28,753 posts)j/k
It's just embarrassing the shit that's coming out of Kerry's mouth. tried to listen but had to turn it off.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The CIA is already on it. Soon our freedom fighters will be victorious, just like in Afghanistan! We are experienced in this matter.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)It is incredible how we are being pushed into a war that only the government wants.
Apparently their prepared to say and hide anything that would prevent one.
Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)I have noticed the conspicuous lack of war clowns.
Rove,Rice,Kristol,Bremer,Wolfie,Powell,Cheney ad nauseum.
Hello,anybody out there(taps microphone)?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They are now supporting and working with the Syrian National Coalition as of March of this year. After they sent in their investigators in 2011 to monitor Assad's actions against the Arab Spring protestors, they decided to suspend him, allegedly for genocide. Their efforts to get him to stop failed.
The Arab League includes 22 nations reaching from the west coast of Africa, across all of the northern coast, Saudi Arabia and other nations. The ties that bind them are shared language, culture and economic, as well as the increase of women and children's rights. They have been in existance for over half a century.
The League suspended Quadaffi in 2011 for his treatment of his Arab Spring protestors and later gave Libya's seat to the interim government. Which is why there was not an outcry over the ouster of Quadaffi, in thei Arab world, he had been deemed a rogue for the slaughter of his people. So when the USA and other forces went after them, it was just matter of course for them. AFAIK, they did not send troops or supply air cover, they are not capable of it.
And it's likely the Arab world won't be upset now if Assad is forced out. We don't hear much about them despite their trade agreements with Britain and other western nations since they are focused solely on Arab concerns. But they exist and want Assad gone. as do Turkey and Jordan.
Only Turkey has ties to NATO, which was the first group they requested help but this is still not an Article 5 violation by their standards. Putin says that if he sees good, hard scientific evidence on the latest round of chemical weaponry, he will agree to a UN motion.
Russia, the USA and the 189 countries Alan notes, agreed as member states to not only get rid of their WMD, which include biological, chemical, radiological and nuclear weapons but to prevent their being made or used anywhere.
These are all matters of international agreements, of which Americans are largely unaware until something like this gets our attention.
leftstreet
(36,116 posts)It's so USA!!! centered you'd think every other spot on the map be filled with dragons
There was controversy about the suspension, too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)to out itself as a Crusader client. In fact, it would probably be suicidal.