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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:40 PM Sep 2013

Pentagon Is Ordered to Expand Potential Targets in Syria With a Focus on Forces (Using Aircraft)

WASHINGTON — President Obama has directed the Pentagon to develop an expanded list of potential targets in Syria in response to intelligence suggesting that the government of President Bashar al-Assad has been moving troops and equipment used to employ chemical weapons while Congress debates whether to authorize military action.

Mr. Obama, officials said, is now determined to put more emphasis on the “degrade” part of what the administration has said is the goal of a military strike against Syria — to “deter and degrade” Mr. Assad’s ability to use chemical weapons. That means expanding beyond the 50 or so major sites that were part of the original target list developed with French forces before Mr. Obama delayed action on Saturday to seek Congressional approval of his plan.

For the first time, the administration is talking about using American and French aircraft to conduct strikes on specific targets, in addition to ship-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles. There is a renewed push to get other NATO forces involved.


The strikes would be aimed not at the chemical stockpiles themselves — risking a potential catastrophe — but rather the military units that have stored and prepared the chemical weapons and carried the attacks against Syrian rebels, as well as the headquarters overseeing the effort, and the rockets and artillery that have launched the attacks, military officials said Thursday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/world/middleeast/pentagon-is-ordered-to-expand-potential-targets-in-syria-with-a-focus-on-forces.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

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Pentagon Is Ordered to Expand Potential Targets in Syria With a Focus on Forces (Using Aircraft) (Original Post) morningfog Sep 2013 OP
Well, this is certainly getting more and more limited isn't it? NuclearDem Sep 2013 #1
Is this going to make this whole mess more palatable? Autumn Sep 2013 #2
But don't call it an act of war! morningfog Sep 2013 #4
This is shit on steroids. Autumn Sep 2013 #6
So much for a limited strike Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #3
They're gonna need a bigger bank account n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #5
And we're gonna need... pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #10
I think he's trying to get more R's on board... they wanna blow more shit up. This is bait. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #7
And will be used after the votes are gotten. morningfog Sep 2013 #8
And I thought The Manchurian Candidate was fiction MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #9
And some laughed when others warned of Mission Creep NightWatcher Sep 2013 #11
It is stunning to watch this in real time. morningfog Sep 2013 #12
Stunning. Not the word that I would use. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #15
Have they started making troop estimates...you know, just in case NightWatcher Sep 2013 #13
We know that they know it will take 75,000 to secure the chemical weapons. morningfog Sep 2013 #14
General Dempsey malletgirl02 Sep 2013 #16
Since when did the definition of the word "limited" change fujiyama Sep 2013 #17
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
1. Well, this is certainly getting more and more limited isn't it?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:42 PM
Sep 2013

You can't spell mission creep without creep!

Autumn

(45,109 posts)
2. Is this going to make this whole mess more palatable?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:42 PM
Sep 2013

Jesus Christ on a crutch, this is getting stupid.

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
3. So much for a limited strike
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:43 PM
Sep 2013

this looks like an all out war.

Especially if they are considering using aircraft against Syria's sophisticated air defense system which cruise missiles will have to take out.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
7. I think he's trying to get more R's on board... they wanna blow more shit up. This is bait.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:52 PM
Sep 2013

This is intended to get their vote.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. Have they started making troop estimates...you know, just in case
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:05 AM
Sep 2013

Securing airbases, supply lines into the country, friendly airbases....

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
16. General Dempsey
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:17 AM
Sep 2013

"Privately, some members of the Obama administration appear concerned that General Dempsey’s presentations to Congress — particularly his repeated assertions that any American intervention in Syria is unlikely to have a decisive effect on the civil war — are undercutting the administration’s argument that the attacks, while targeted, would also change Mr. Assad’s calculus. "

This quote is especially telling. It says that the administration is having a problem with Dempsey saying that America's intervention is unlikely to have an effection the Syrian civil war. First Dempseys job is to give a truthful assesment of the plan of action based on his expereince. Waht does the administration want him to do lie? Secondly the administration was first "this is is a limited strike how dare you sat we are thinking about how strikes will effect the civil war" and now the administration is like, "how dare you General Dempsey for saying our strikes won't have an effect of the civil war"

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