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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts) Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:40 PM Sep 2013

I support the President, but I'm praying this is a bluff or nth dimensional chess

This debate has certainly shaken things up and people are finding unlikely allies on both sides. President Obama is a really smart guy, so I'm almost certain he knows that lobbing random missiles into Syria, against the will of the world, is a terrible idea and won't solve anything. Call me cynical, but I'm hoping this is some sort of nth dimensional chess move designed to scramble the deck. Otherwise, I just don't get it.

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I support the President, but I'm praying this is a bluff or nth dimensional chess (Original Post) apples and oranges Sep 2013 OP

I will tell you my opposition is more to do with what comes next after we bomb. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #1

A guest on Chris Hayes brought up a good point: apples and oranges Sep 2013 #3

That is a great point. I think they are stalling to see what they can come up with. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #4

No bluff or nth dimension. It has already made things worse. morningfog Sep 2013 #2

Agreed, the rhetoric can't be dialed back Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #5

It is definitely scripted. Kerry is overacting. morningfog Sep 2013 #6

Just because he's smart doesn't mean he's on your side. Marr Sep 2013 #7

I think there is a simple answer madville Sep 2013 #8

The game is Risk. rug Sep 2013 #9

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

1. I will tell you my opposition is more to do with what comes next after we bomb.

Reply to apples and oranges (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:44 PM

Sep 2013

If we had a clearer strategy then I could maybe support this action but we have no idea of what is next.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)

3. A guest on Chris Hayes brought up a good point:

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:47 PM

Sep 2013

If after the missile strike, Assad continues, then what? The US would have no choice but to do more strikes or "appear weak."

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

4. That is a great point. I think they are stalling to see what they can come up with.

Reply to apples and oranges (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:49 PM

Sep 2013

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

2. No bluff or nth dimension. It has already made things worse.

Reply to apples and oranges (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:46 PM

Sep 2013

And the war is coming. Which will make it much worse.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)

5. Agreed, the rhetoric can't be dialed back

Reply to morningfog (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:55 PM

Sep 2013

in fact is seems to be getting worse. A bluff would be incomprehensibly foolish at this point but that is the point in reality isn't it? The president has placed himself in a corner for which there is only one way out. The question I have is why? The concerted effort and push seems scripted, orchestrated. What the hell is going on?

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

6. It is definitely scripted. Kerry is overacting.

Reply to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:57 PM

Sep 2013

I have the same question. Why? And to what end? No one has answered that.

Marr

(20,317 posts)

7. Just because he's smart doesn't mean he's on your side.

Reply to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:00 AM

Sep 2013

I think he's very intelligent. I just don't think he gives half a shit about people like me or what we might think. He prefers the 1%.

madville

(7,412 posts)

8. I think there is a simple answer

Reply to apples and oranges (Original post)

Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:08 AM

Sep 2013

It's turning into amateur hour, I think the administration is truly in over their heads at this point and just wants a way out. This is really going to mess with our chances in 2014 as well, they are pissing all the liberals off, you know, the people that organize and GOTV among other things.

rug

(82,333 posts)

9. The game is Risk.

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Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:11 AM

Sep 2013

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