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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould the rush to strike Syria be to cover up the origins of the chemical weapons?
Like many here on DU I've been puzzled by Kerry's hyperbolic ranting and staunch defense of the position that Assad gassed his own people without having the final information of the UN Inspectors (which Kerry/Obama said that we don't need)but that could at least show the type of gases that were used and where they might have come from?
This morning I watched POB's press conference from Russia at the G20 and he repeated that the gassing of his own people is why we must do something. He didn't address what would come after our surgical strike. He was asked by a reporter what would happen if we did a surgical strike and Assad gassed his people again and he said that would rally the International Community to do something about it. IOWD's full scale intervention was what he was saying if Assad did it again.
So, why this rush to do this alone which he would not take off the table even if congress voted no when asked several times by different reporters.
Could it be that there's something about the origins of those stockpiles of chemical (which Obama stated was "the largest stockpile in the world" that could be embarrassing to the US or one or more of our allies. Or is there something else which could be causing this rush to bomb?
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onehandle
(51,122 posts)brush
(53,791 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)We know who are the possible culprits, us Russia and China. It seems both we and Russia are trying to hide something.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Obama says that the UN report doesn't matter because it won't prove who did the gassing. Putin says it was the insurgents/rebels who did the first gassings and he has sent the Russians own inspection report about the first two gassings earlier this year to the UN. British Parliament voted down supporting us and China said it won't support a UN resolution to attack.
So... I'm wondering why it's just US that is rushing to go ahead. Could it be that Saudi Arabia gave them the Chemical Weapons? Saudi Arabia is our ally...but, I can't imagine they would send CW stamped "Made in SA." We have CW makers but, would they mark containers "Made in the USA?"
What is so important that Obama still feels we will act alone if we have to?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)that Bandar Bush is pretty much involved in the arming of the rebels with the covert aid of our CIA?
Adam Entou of The Wall Street journal is their expert on this.
Guess we need to find out more about what this reporter knows.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)That Saddam moved his chemical weapons to Syria during the gulf war build up. But who knows.We didn't find anything, yet everybody knew he had them, the world watched him gas the Kurds several times. That was back when gassing people was ok, because Saddam was fighting Iran for us by proxy.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...the chemicals used to make CW. Phillips Petroleum (now Conoco-Phillips) and Alco-something. The ingredient chemicals are called precursers, they have an extended shelf-life. Once mixed into Sarin, shelf-life is limited...fewer impurities giving longer shelf-life.
Saddam delivered CWs (believed to be several types) by artillery and aerial bombs. Assad (allegedly) used rockets. Its possible, likely even, that some of Saddam's CWs disappeared across the border to Syria. Any that were already mixed have likely gone bad by now. If precurser chemicals Saddam possessed came into Assad's hands, they might still be good-I don't know exact lifespan.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)snip
The Government was accused of breathtaking laxity in its arms controls last night after it emerged that officials authorised the export to Syria of two chemicals capable of being used to make a nerve agent such as sarin a year ago.
The Business Secretary, Vince Cable, will today be asked by MPs to explain why a British company was granted export licences for the dual-use substances for six months in 2012 while Syrias civil war was raging and concern was rife that the regime could use chemical weapons on its own people. The disclosure of the licences for potassium fluoride and sodium fluoride, which can both be used as precursor chemicals in the manufacture of nerve gas, came as the US Secretary of State John Kerry said the United States had evidence that sarin gas was used in last months atrocity in Damascus.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)and had them before the Iraq War.
Western countries have not shipped chemical weapons to Syria, what some European companies have done is ship chemicals that can be used in chemical weapons, almost certainly in compliance with their countries laws, in addition to legitimate uses.
If a company ships steel to Syria in the expectation that the steel will be used for bridges or office buildings, should they be blamed if the steel is used to build tanks?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)too slow, and the UN will confirm it was the rebels (not that that'll stop the media: 10 years later I've still caught AP saying "when Hussein kicked out the inspectors--"