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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 04:40 PM Sep 2013

"Years of Tragic Waste" by Paul Krugman at the NY Times

Years of Tragic Waste

by Paul Krugman at the NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/opinion/krugman-years-of-tragic-waste.html

"SNIP..................................



Behind that financial waste lies an even more tragic waste of human potential. Before the financial crisis, 63 percent of adult Americans were employed; that number quickly plunged to less than 59 percent, and there it remains.

How did that happen? It wasn’t a mass outbreak of laziness, and right-wing claims that jobless Americans aren’t trying hard enough to find work because they’re living high on food stamps and unemployment benefits should be treated with the contempt they deserve. A bit of the decline in employment can be attributed to an aging population, but the rest reflects, as I said, an immense failure of economic policy.

Set aside the politics for a moment, and ask what the past five years would have looked like if the U.S. government had actually been able and willing to do what textbook macroeconomics says it should have done — namely, make a big enough push for job creation to offset the effects of the financial crunch and the housing bust, postponing fiscal austerity and tax increases until the private sector was ready to take up the slack. I’ve done a back-of-the-envelope calculation of what such a program would have entailed: It would have been about three times as big as the stimulus we actually got, and would have been much more focused on spending rather than tax cuts.

Would such a policy have worked? All the evidence of the past five years says yes. The Obama stimulus, inadequate as it was, stopped the economy’s plunge in 2009. Europe’s experiment in anti-stimulus — the harsh spending cuts imposed on debtor nations — didn’t produce the promised surge in private-sector confidence. Instead, it produced severe economic contraction, just as textbook economics predicted. Government spending on job creation would, indeed, have created jobs.




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"Years of Tragic Waste" by Paul Krugman at the NY Times (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2013 OP
I found this passage to be particularly astute markpkessinger Sep 2013 #1
your assessment is correct Skittles Sep 2013 #2
A BIG plus one! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #6
Yep, which ends up equalling the lesser of two evils yet again. cui bono Sep 2013 #8
Bingo! jsr Sep 2013 #13
Hope. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #16
DC is a racket. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #17
Krugman is beating around the bush mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #3
k&r Electric Monk Sep 2013 #4
Kicked and recommended. Don't agree with this? Enthusiast Sep 2013 #5
knr mt Zorra Sep 2013 #7
We said, "Mop faster!" but nobody listened. tclambert Sep 2013 #9
But, but gummint is evil! It must be eliminated for liberty and free-dumb. freshwest Sep 2013 #10
Our economy is an absolute mess right now... Jasana Sep 2013 #11
Not to mention, if they'd dared to do a new New Deal out of it, KitSileya Sep 2013 #12
an immense failure of economic policy pscot Sep 2013 #14
No change. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #15
K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #18

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
1. I found this passage to be particularly astute
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 04:45 PM
Sep 2013
Still, I think it’s important to realize how badly policy failed and continues to fail. Right now, Washington seems divided between Republicans who denounce any kind of government action — who insist that all the policies and programs that mitigated the crisis actually made it worse — and Obama loyalists who insist that they did a great job because the world didn’t totally melt down.

Obviously, the Obama people are less wrong than the Republicans. But, by any objective standard, U.S. economic policy since Lehman has been an astonishing, horrifying failure.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
6. A BIG plus one!
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:02 PM
Sep 2013

The nation, the government, completely stopped investing, except in war and the military. It's a bunch of bullshit.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
3. Krugman is beating around the bush
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 05:00 PM
Sep 2013

The GOP doesn't care whether the middle or lower classes do well, regardless of the effect that has on the nation. Their only concern is to shovel money to the rich so some of it can come back as campaign contributions, which brings up an interesting point: we should be dealing with the corporations - writing letters to them, lobbying them for laws and such - rather than Republicans. Sadly this applies to Democrats as well.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
9. We said, "Mop faster!" but nobody listened.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:40 PM
Sep 2013

President Obama got one shot at a stimulus program. During his first year, he could get something passed. After that, nothing much. He decided to go low rather than fight for double that stimulus, which is what we needed. I agree with Krugman--huge opportunity wasted.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. But, but gummint is evil! It must be eliminated for liberty and free-dumb.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:31 AM
Sep 2013

What he suggests and what Obama tried won't be allowed by tea baggers and their allies.

Jasana

(490 posts)
11. Our economy is an absolute mess right now...
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:38 AM
Sep 2013

but all Washington is currently talking about is Syria. It's outrageous!
We need to spend some quality time fixing ourselves.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
12. Not to mention, if they'd dared to do a new New Deal out of it,
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 10:29 AM
Sep 2013

The US would now have much better infrastructure that would enable it to have further economic growth.... instead, they choked, and gave the money to people who didn't use it, and roads and railways and renewable energy projects are in ruins.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
18. K&R!
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:46 PM
Sep 2013

Saw this coming 10,000 miles away, but then again I'm just a hater, or I'm ignorant about government, or I'm moronic and pissed because I didn't get my pony, etc.....



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