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applegrove

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Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:25 PM Sep 2013

"No one cares what Rumsfelds or Cheneys think about Syria"

No one cares what Rumsfelds or Cheneys think about Syria

By Joan Walsh at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/04/no_one_cares_what_rumsfelds_or_cheneys_think_about_syria/

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A sneering Liz Cheney, looking to unseat Wyoming GOP Sen. Mike Enzi, told a Tea Party town hall in Jackson Hole Tuesday night that she would not support a congressional resolution to back President Obama’s planned Syria strike, deriding him for “an amateurish approach to national security and foreign policy.”

The daughter of the man responsible for fabricating the case for the Iraq war, the man who famously insisted “we will, in fact, be treated as liberators” and who had no plan for when that predictably turned out not to be the case – the daughter of that man is upset that Obama doesn’t seem to have a clear plan for Syria. This news comes on the heels of disgraced former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Cheney’s partner in war crime, blasting Obama’s plan as “feckless” and deriding him as the “so-called commander in chief.”

So let’s recap: The team responsible for one of the worst decisions in American foreign policy history is kneecapping the president in a time of crisis. Of course, Dick Cheney has been attacking Obama from the beginning, insisting before he was inaugurated that he was making America less safe by promising to end torture and close Guantánamo. But now his daughter is taking her Obama contempt so far that she’s bucking her dad’s neocon friends and resisting the president’s Syria plans.

Cheney’s turnaround is pretty striking. She was a co-founder of the neocon group Keep America Safe, along with always-wrong war-lover William Kristol. TNR’s Marc Tracy has detailed Cheney’s long list of statements backing action against Assad going back to 2007. As an assistant secretary of state she tried to use funds for regime change in Syria and Iran. Just last month, the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin (who’s in the running to share Kristol’s title of “always wrong”) listed Cheney as among the rising Republican stars who would buck “the isolationist trend in our party and in the country itself.” But now, running in a state that’s skeptical of more foreign interventions, she’s siding with the isolationists.


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"No one cares what Rumsfelds or Cheneys think about Syria" (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2013 OP
The Syria situation is very complex, and there are a lot of people with a lot of opinions... The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2013 #1
This is not a time of crisis, as Ms. Walsh puts it. Any "kneecapping" is wholly self-inflicted. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #2
I agree no one cares about what Cheney or Rumsfelt thinks, they already thought us into invading Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #3

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,740 posts)
1. The Syria situation is very complex, and there are a lot of people with a lot of opinions...
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:38 PM
Sep 2013

But of all the people in the world with opinions about what to do about Syria, those who should absolutely not be listened to, ever, at all, are Rumsfeld and the Cheneys.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. I agree no one cares about what Cheney or Rumsfelt thinks, they already thought us into invading
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:14 PM
Sep 2013

Iraq on false intelligence. Now they are attacking from the other side. It is interesting now to see those who jumped on invading Iraq jumping ship now.

There is another thought I have toyed with in the last day or so, Obama just might be playing a lot of people with backing off ordering a strike especially after the UK voted not to back the strike on Syria. Plus, Obama was chastised for making strikes in Libya without approval of Congress so he is playing the card here to get congressional approval. If he gets it then he could strike, if nit then he does nothing. I am not sure he is hell bent on striking so the lack of authority gives him cover. If the US does nothing and the poison gas continues then it will be a burden on the world. Russia will nit give the UN authority so that is not the direction to go in. Again, time will tell. The Bush administration has left a really bad taste in our mouths with the needless Iraqi war I can see why some does not want any more wars. If the rest of the world sees the US is not going to take care of this situation maybe they will step up to the plate and help for a change.

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