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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:48 PM Sep 2013

WTF????? Pentagon says it has all the money it needs to bomb Syria.

Here are head spinning snips, which give rise to even more questions..

1. The Pentagon has notified congressional appropriators that it won’t seek added funds to pay for a strike, said a Defense Department official and a Republican aide on the House Appropriations Committee.

2. the Pentagon can absorb it from existing funds, which include a wartime contingency budget of $93 billion this fiscal year.

3.estimated the total cost of the limited strike envisioned by Obama as between $300 million and $1 billion, depending on how many cruise missiles are launched and how long the attack lasts.

4.a strike the U.S. is contemplating is a “fraction of the magnitude” of past military actions in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Here...read...my head is still spinning

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-06/obama-likely-to-avoid-congress-on-cost-of-strike-on-syria.html

People in this country are going homeless and hungry but the Pentagon has stash of 93 billion dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So the Syria "war" is sorta a FREEBIE???????

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WTF????? Pentagon says it has all the money it needs to bomb Syria. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 OP
We got the bomb three countries, bomb one free package. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #1
Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that this is BS, dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #9
I think you should bet your life savings on that one. pangaia Sep 2013 #21
That screwed up religious wasteland has its money thanks to the automobiles warrant46 Sep 2013 #23
And why should we stop? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #28
Good for you warrant46 Sep 2013 #29
SUVs have a purpose Bay Boy Sep 2013 #30
Right on!! I have a 4 wheeler to plow snow. 700 foot driveway I use it to work warrant46 Sep 2013 #38
Americans are homeless and hungry BECAUSE the Pentagon has a $93B stash.... mike_c Sep 2013 #2
Exactly. tecelote Sep 2013 #41
When you have a lock on the Black Budget, that's pretty much ALWAYS TRUE. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #3
Hey grandma Cat food is on sale at IGA warrant46 Sep 2013 #4
This is a must read. jsr Sep 2013 #5
It's dumbfounding, ain't it? nt bemildred Sep 2013 #6
we have the money for many things, it's just that some don't want to use the money JI7 Sep 2013 #7
They will starve Americans in the name of a "humanitarian war" liberal N proud Sep 2013 #8
Of course it would have the dough, liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #10
They forgot which drawer they put...... DeSwiss Sep 2013 #11
A trillion here, a trillion there... Blue Owl Sep 2013 #12
Vote out all Republicans. gulliver Sep 2013 #13
No, not surprised. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #15
Contingency? How about a contingency fund for Meals on Wheels? curlyred Sep 2013 #14
I have friends laid off from work abelenkpe Sep 2013 #32
Our sailing club just gave $1000 to Meals On Wheels. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #44
Bless you curlyred Sep 2013 #58
If they're bragging that they literally have money to burn, let's TAKE IT BACK!! reformist2 Sep 2013 #16
It's especially weird in light of the fact that John Kerry says the Arab countries enough Sep 2013 #17
yeah, I commented upthread about Saudia Arabia offering to pay for it. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #24
Somehow that Kerry statement seemed like a new low for the United States in my lifetime, enough Sep 2013 #35
Sickening on so many levels. Mira Sep 2013 #18
k and effing r... Thanks, dixiegrrrrl. ..nt TeeYiYi Sep 2013 #19
to be replaced with new and improved missiles hibbing Sep 2013 #20
So the Pentagon has now guaranteed that they will seek no replenishment costs Thor_MN Sep 2013 #22
Well isnt that nice, they have money for war, the banksters but not enough .... Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #25
Estimated cost between 300 million and 1 billion, they say it like, no problem. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #26
pocket change rurallib Sep 2013 #39
and that's just for this fiscal year! grasswire Sep 2013 #27
Don't believe anything the general officer class tells you. another_liberal Sep 2013 #31
Bomb Iran, get the fifth country free! Initech Sep 2013 #33
You know. I want that money and no war. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #34
What we were told on February 18, 2013 mick063 Sep 2013 #36
Maybe congress should borrow money from the Pentagon so they could use it for something useful. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #37
Just One War grilled onions Sep 2013 #40
They can start a new war without even asking for new funds. CLEARLY kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #42
Gee ..only 10 billion more than the sequester amount. Damned war pigs! n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #43
Talk about moral obscenities! arcane1 Sep 2013 #45
There's always money for war neverforget Sep 2013 #46
TPTB, their priorities are askew. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #47
TPTB would CREATE the third party. arcane1 Sep 2013 #52
They have coupons that will pay for the bombs daleo Sep 2013 #48
Money for war, no money for infrastructure. USA! USA! USA! sarcasmo Sep 2013 #49
Then why have they been complaining about the sequester? Orrex Sep 2013 #50
It's almost as if the sequester was nothing more than a made-up excuse for partisan bickering! arcane1 Sep 2013 #54
I thought the Saudis said they would pay for it? Frustratedlady Sep 2013 #51
Sad when the United States Military is turned into a mercenary army... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #60
These are the priorities of the people that actually rule this country. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #53
That money needs to be reappropriated gopiscrap Sep 2013 #55
Sept. 10, 2001 - $2.3 trillion reported missing from the Pentagon by Rummy. Hmm... nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #56
wartime contingency budget of $93 billion this fiscal year. JEB Sep 2013 #57
53¢ of every tax dollar goes to the military CrispyQ Sep 2013 #59
OMG this makes me sick! The MIC is killing us all! /nt workinclasszero Sep 2013 #62
Doing my part to make this vid go viral. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #63
Great this info needs to be seen workinclasszero Sep 2013 #64
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #61

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that this is BS,
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:54 PM
Sep 2013

a cover story and that Saudi Arabia is going to pay for it all, under the table?
That they just won't admit it publicly because of the uproar when Kerry mentioned it?

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
23. That screwed up religious wasteland has its money thanks to the automobiles
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:33 PM
Sep 2013

that amerika covets so dearly

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
30. SUVs have a purpose
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:55 PM
Sep 2013

but rarely are they actually used for that purpose. Besides my Prius I have a Tahoe with a snow plow, but I pretty much use it just for plowing or hauling heavy loads. But to use a SUV for one person to commute is dumb in my book.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
38. Right on!! I have a 4 wheeler to plow snow. 700 foot driveway I use it to work
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:19 PM
Sep 2013

Not to run all over the country. Amazing how many people waste gas on foolishness.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
41. Exactly.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:35 PM
Sep 2013

Budget Sequestration affects everything except our military budget - the highest in the world.

Bombing Syrians is more important than feeding Americans.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
7. we have the money for many things, it's just that some don't want to use the money
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:52 PM
Sep 2013

for certain things.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
8. They will starve Americans in the name of a "humanitarian war"
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:53 PM
Sep 2013

We must starve programs here so we can bomb another country!


liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
10. Of course it would have the dough,
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:56 PM
Sep 2013

it sucks down seven BILLION dollars a fucking WEEK. And anything it asks for, it's given. Priorities, ya know?

Why do you think social security, medicare/medicaid, and other programs that actually benefit human needs are always the first to be considered for cuts and always need to be defended and protected? Maybe we should fold them under the umbrella of the Pentagon and that will stop the never-ending assaults against them.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. They forgot which drawer they put......
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:56 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

...the ''extra-bombs'' money in. Happens a lot.

- They're still looking for the $2.3T that Rumsfeld lost.



K&R

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
13. Vote out all Republicans.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:57 PM
Sep 2013

Until Dems get a big majority, don't be surprised if a bunch of people starve, die of easily correctable health problems, or go homeless. You're not really surprised, I assume.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. No, not surprised.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:01 PM
Sep 2013

Agape over the effontary, yes.

Wish voting out Republicans was as easy as saying so..here in Ala. there were NO Dems. on the big office ticket last election.

curlyred

(1,879 posts)
14. Contingency? How about a contingency fund for Meals on Wheels?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:00 PM
Sep 2013

What the fuck. We can always find money to blow people up but not to feed them.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
32. I have friends laid off from work
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:05 PM
Sep 2013

because their jobs were off shored struggling to get by on reduced unemployment due to the sequester. The government can't do anything to keep jobs in the country, can't fund meals on wheels, head start or even pay full unemployment but they always have money to bomb another upstart county. Funny 'cause they were so busy telling us why we need to cut more just a couple weeks ago.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
16. If they're bragging that they literally have money to burn, let's TAKE IT BACK!!
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:04 PM
Sep 2013

We should of course thank them for being so honest for a change, admitting they have more money than they know what to do with, and that we'll be more than happy to help them with that problem.

enough

(13,259 posts)
17. It's especially weird in light of the fact that John Kerry says the Arab countries
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:11 PM
Sep 2013

are willing to pay for it, for "the whole thing."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11781543

Apparently this is a war that is not wanting for funding.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. yeah, I commented upthread about Saudia Arabia offering to pay for it.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sep 2013

and how this Pentagon announcement might be cover for that.

Still, it comes across as a statement of how desperately they must want to destabilize Syria, "assuring" us that it won't cost a cent, nope, all done and paid for
PLUS
even tho it might cost as much as 1 billion
The Pentagon announces it STILL has enough money to bomb other countries, apparently.

enough

(13,259 posts)
35. Somehow that Kerry statement seemed like a new low for the United States in my lifetime,
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:12 PM
Sep 2013

and I'm 69 years old.

A quote from Kerry from the hearing:

“In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done."


Just so pathetic and sickening.

Link for the quote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3

Mira

(22,380 posts)
18. Sickening on so many levels.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:13 PM
Sep 2013

We can give a war - another one - and not really involve the populace. They won't be deprived to help pay for it, except in sending their sons and daughters.
They are eviscerated and deprived already and it can't get much worse for many.

93 billion war stash money.
Ain't that special?!

I have decided that once in office no Politician is going to be trusted by me ever again in this life time.
The things I don't know that turns them into people I no longer recognize (after meeting them on the campaign trail, working for them and helping them get elected) must be very huge and as my title says: Sickening.

I for one am exhausted from protesting the same shit all over again in many ways, and may simply move under the bridge in Timbuktu.
I think there won't be TV - or the internet. And I can rest.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
20. to be replaced with new and improved missiles
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:26 PM
Sep 2013

Congress has to keep their benefactors fat and happy and all those missiles will be replaced. It's a win win.

Peace

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
22. So the Pentagon has now guaranteed that they will seek no replenishment costs
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:30 PM
Sep 2013

for all materials expended in the next year. We can now reduce their budget accordingly.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
26. Estimated cost between 300 million and 1 billion, they say it like, no problem.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:38 PM
Sep 2013

A FRACTION of the magnitude of past military actions...WTF?

Sure, that will make it all easy to digest...they live in a god damn bubble.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
31. Don't believe anything the general officer class tells you.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sep 2013

They know that as soon as a war begins, Congress will have no choice but to vote more funding. To do otherwise would be seen as treason during wartime.

"Our fighting men and women in the foxholes (or cockpits) can't be shortchanged!"

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
36. What we were told on February 18, 2013
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:12 PM
Sep 2013

Were we lied to?


Navy: Lincoln Refueling Delayed, Will Hurt Carrier Readiness LINK

The U.S. Navy will delay the refueling of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) for an unknown period because of the uncertain fiscal environment due to the ongoing legislative struggle, the service told Congress in a Friday message obtained by USNI News.

Lincoln was scheduled to be moved to Huntington Ingalls Industries’ (HII) Newport News Shipyard later this month to begin the 4-year refueling and complex overhaul (RCOH) of the ship.

“This delay is due to uncertainty in the Fiscal Year 2013 appropriations bill, both in the timing and funding level available for the first full year of the contract,” the message said.
“CVN-72 will remain at Norfolk Naval Base where the ships force personnel will continue to conduct routine maintenance until sufficient funding is received for the initial execution of the RCOH.”

Rep. J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) chairman of the House Armed Services Seapower subcommittee released a statement denouncing the need for decision.

Forbes called the delay, “another example of how these reckless and irresponsible defense cuts in Washington will have a long-term impact on the Navy’s ability to perform its missions. Not only will the Lincoln be delayed in returning to the Fleet, but this decision will also affect the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) defueling, the USS George Washington (CVN-73) RCOH, and future carrier readiness.”

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
40. Just One War
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:32 PM
Sep 2013

If they stopped just one war and took that money for truly humanitarian projects imagine what we could have....Meals On Wheels could expand and no senior/disabled would ever have to fear of not getting that meal....Food pantries would have stocked shelves and never have to turn anyone away....Shelters would have ample space for those who needed a roof on a cold night...abused women would have a place for themselves and their kids....no one would ever be turned down for treatment at a clinic or ER...bridges would be safe...roads would be repaired....preschool kids would once again have education at their fingertips no matter what mama could afford to pay...all kids would have a free meal at school--none would be turned down because they did not have enough cash on their meal card...our federal parks could once again run at full speed with enough guards to ensure safety and any needed repairs....jobs programs could generate another generation of young adults with education to be able to have a bit of comfort like their parents or grandparents had to be able to buy a car, have a place to live on their own and be able to marry and raise a family if they choose.....But instead we have to have yet another war.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
42. They can start a new war without even asking for new funds. CLEARLY
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:38 PM
Sep 2013

this is a department that needs its budget preserved against any talk of cuts.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
47. TPTB, their priorities are askew.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:00 PM
Sep 2013

This nation sucks!

We need to wrench this nation away from the true enemies of liberty and justice. You see these enemies every day on TV, they play politicians and propagandists from both parties. I have no doubt if we had a third party the assholes would infiltrate that one too.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
52. TPTB would CREATE the third party.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:19 PM
Sep 2013

And it would be all anti-Washington, anti-government, and anti-tax. You know, like the teabaggers.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
50. Then why have they been complaining about the sequester?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:15 PM
Sep 2013

They were crying that the meager cuts to the astronomical defense budget would cripple our readiness, to the point that we'd only have 20 or 30 times the military expenditure of the next five countries.

And now they reveal that they're sitting on a gigantic slush fund?


Must be nice.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
54. It's almost as if the sequester was nothing more than a made-up excuse for partisan bickering!
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:21 PM
Sep 2013

No.. that can't be it!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
51. I thought the Saudis said they would pay for it?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:18 PM
Sep 2013

Did I misread that? Why is Bandar popping onto the scene from time to time?

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
53. These are the priorities of the people that actually rule this country.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:20 PM
Sep 2013

It's a classic case of imperialist fever.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
57. wartime contingency budget of $93 billion this fiscal year.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 12:24 AM
Sep 2013

The war time fund should be raided to fully fund Social Security, or college for our young people, or healthcare for our sick.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
59. 53¢ of every tax dollar goes to the military
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Sep 2013

"Contingency fund" at about 0:50. Worth the full four minutes to watch.



 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
64. Great this info needs to be seen
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:41 AM
Sep 2013

I bet the average american has no idea of the obscene amounts of money the MIC sucks out of this country year after year.

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