Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:06 PM Sep 2013

Who was responsible for the chemical attack?


7 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Bashar al-Assad and his agents
4 (57%)
The rebels attacked themselves to draw the United States into the conflict
1 (14%)
Rogue elements within the Assad regime
0 (0%)
Other/Please specify
2 (29%)
Show usernames
Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll
35 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Who was responsible for the chemical attack? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 OP
don't know. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #1
Who cares? NoOneMan Sep 2013 #2
How about our CIA? Cleita Sep 2013 #3
Then the Assad regime is really fucked. Barack_America Sep 2013 #8
Don't know as well. Could be a number of options. yourout Sep 2013 #4
It's not our responsibility to know leftstreet Sep 2013 #5
I wish you'd phrased it slightly differently cali Sep 2013 #6
Done/nt DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #9
The truth will soon be apparent, some of his military is defecting and his world may just start Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #7
Probably Assad, but I'm not totally convinced. MNBrewer Sep 2013 #10
That's it? TWO options???? dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #11
It doesn't matter. It's not about the chemicals NightWatcher Sep 2013 #12
You left out the only correct option Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #13
Why is it when it comes to emotional opinions people insist they know things when they don't? liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #14
There is no definitive proof.. 99Forever Sep 2013 #15
Why is a chemical attack so much worse than a tomahawk missile? Taverner Sep 2013 #16
Not enough blood or wounds ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #18
So arbitrary Taverner Sep 2013 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #17
Other: none of us knows Marrah_G Sep 2013 #20
Yeah, I don't think a poll is going to decide the issue. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #22
You think that the US and Israel did this attack? hrmjustin Sep 2013 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #27
The question was who is resonsible for the attack and you replied; hrmjustin Sep 2013 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #29
You can think whatever you want but expect feedback. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #31
I am not stalking you but challenging you. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #32
in reality it's unknown azurnoir Sep 2013 #23
Posters on DU have the evidence to answer this??? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #25
Only one other vote for rogue? KamaAina Sep 2013 #26
The rebels are DEEPLY divided....murdering each other.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #33
PS. I vote Bandar Bush n/t Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #34
I don't care. David__77 Sep 2013 #35

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
8. Then the Assad regime is really fucked.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:17 PM
Sep 2013

If our CIA is conducting large-scale military assaults using military-grade rockets right in their capital city.

It would be pretty hard not to notice that.

leftstreet

(36,116 posts)
5. It's not our responsibility to know
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:15 PM
Sep 2013

If Obama claims he wants to fight 'smart' wars, not 'stupid' ones, maybe he shouldn't start talking about strikes and intervention without all the evidence

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. I wish you'd phrased it slightly differently
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:16 PM
Sep 2013

it may sound nit picky but Assad's forces may have done it without Assad knowing of it. Juan Cole thinks this is likely.

It would have been better I think if you'd made the choice between "the Assad regime" and "a rebel faction" and thrown in other.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. The truth will soon be apparent, some of his military is defecting and his world may just start
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:17 PM
Sep 2013

Crumbling around him. The old story is he can run but he may not be able to hide forever. Then again if he has used chemical weapons and he could decide to stand a war criminal trial he may feel his life is over anyhow. Now Syria just a front for Russia and Iran. Like a lot of countries, there are only as stable as their leaders.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
13. You left out the only correct option
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:29 PM
Sep 2013

Nobody knows, I have a few potential suspects in mind but I could not tell you with certainty who did it. Neither can anyone else no matter how loudly they insist they have the answer.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
14. Why is it when it comes to emotional opinions people insist they know things when they don't?
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:33 PM
Sep 2013

Religious people and atheists alike seem to know for sure whether or not there is a God. People seem to know for sure Assad used chemical weapons and none of the rebels did all before the UN report comes out. The truth is right now no one knows. You are absolutely right. Anyone who claims to know, doesn't.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
15. There is no definitive proof..
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:33 PM
Sep 2013

... that I have seen to point a finger at anyone.

I say this now, just as I did when the war pigs were pitching The Idiot Son's Iraq Debacle:

If you had proof, you would be showing it to every eye that would look, not telling us to "trust us."

I didn't trust "them," and I don't trust this administration. Both have lied to us, multiple times.

PROVE IT or it isn't real.

GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)
18. Not enough blood or wounds ...
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:59 PM
Sep 2013

According to John Kerry:

As a father, I can’t get the image out of my head of a man who held up his dead child, wailing while chaos swirled around him, the images of entire families dead in their beds without a drop of blood or even a visible wound, bodies contorting in spasms, human suffering that we can never ignore or forget.
 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
19. So arbitrary
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:57 PM
Sep 2013

Being trapped under rubble from a bomb blast can be every bit as sadistic as mustard gas

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
20. Other: none of us knows
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:00 PM
Sep 2013

The choice is between an asshole president and a bunch of asshole extremist groups some with ties to terrorist groups.

Remember that we trained Bin Laden.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #24)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
28. The question was who is resonsible for the attack and you replied;
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 07:05 PM
Sep 2013

22. Most likely the CIA and MOSSAD.

Even "Al-Qaeda" is probably them.

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #28)

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #30)

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
23. in reality it's unknown
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:31 PM
Sep 2013

in real life our government wants it to be Assad very badly I guess that his employ as a torturer is over, just consider the missile strike a pink slip of sorts

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
26. Only one other vote for rogue?
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:57 PM
Sep 2013

I read, here at DU, that the chemical attack wasn't even carried out correctly. Apparently you're supposed to fire chemical shells closer to each other than conventional ones, so as to create a concentrated cloud of gas. But they didn't do that. That points to a rogue unit commander firing chemical rounds in desperation. That same report said that the Syrian defense minister smacked the commander down.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
33. The rebels are DEEPLY divided....murdering each other....
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 07:51 PM
Sep 2013

so saying "The rebels bombed themselves" is ingenuous.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Who was responsible for t...