Months and sometimes years...and by that time the media has lost interest and moved on....then it is filed away never to be seen again.

thank you for the reminder, helps put all this into clearer perspective.

I make a similar point -- re: USA use of DU and white phosphorus -- in another op here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023619119

Our culture and our government is on a death train that just never even pulls over to take a breath, am I right?

grrrrr.

means a lot that you understand.

pull back on this latest call to war.

the horrific media images out their on MSM. I don't know. I thought they'd wake up when that Historical Site of the Oldest Church of Christians speaking Aramaic (language of Jesus) was invaded by the Rebels/Insurgents...whatever they are called..I guess the Anti-Assadists is what they want to be called.... But, that Assad protected not only the Chrisian Population but others of differing sects and religions in his REGIME ...does make me wonder what will happen when Saudi Rebels (aligned with other RW Sects) try to take over Syria after Assad is tossed out when we Bomb giving cover to the Rebels (who are they) and they run the place going after ALL the Religious differences and tribes and sects that ASSAD seemed to control.

WHAT A MESS...and that we can't allow them to settle it on their own. I wonder if Syria had decided to intervene in America's Civil War on the side of the North or South...what might have happened back then. We settled our Civil War on our own...but the South never forgot what happened to them with Reconstruction after Lincoln was Assassinated and the "Carpet Baggers and Influence Peddlers" came to wreak havoc on families who had crops burned, cattle slain...and were starving. And, that people wanted to blame the innocents for the Wealthy Slave Owners who started that damned WAR. So many were harmed and the bitterness and anger grew into the RW of the South...in part by the bitterness of how they were treated after the war by those who Replaced Lincoln who wanted the South to get back on it's feet and to Repair the Nation..but those Opportunists from Wall Street didn't wan't Lincoln's plan of "Reconciliation" to go forward but to plunder the South and grind them down...only allowing the Wealthy Class to survive and Prosper AFTER the War. The poor who served the "White Trash" as they came to be known were treated like scum...and being basically disenfranchised started to grow into the RW/Christian Fundies that we deal with today. And, again they are manipulated by Powerful Interests like Koch Brothers and Wall Street and Religious FAKE Preachers and Rush Limbaugh as their "Flag Bearers."

Whatever....what a History our USA has...as such a young country.

but ours that we plan to drop on them. I'm certain when there is a cease fire there will be a need for occupation troops to protect just those people you mention while they rebuild homes and lives, otherwise the way we are heading will only create a bigger disaster. I hope the UN steps up to the plate. Frankly, we should have gotten all our pointed heads together, us, Russians, Saudis and all other players, two years ago when this was going downhill. When Assad first shot on the protesters the United Nations should have been in there negotiating with him about this. It would have saved buckets of blood. But it seems we have too many generals in this world and not enough ambassadors and diplomats.

As you say:

"Frankly, we should have gotten all our pointed heads together, us, Russians, Saudis and all other players, two years ago when this was going downhill. When Assad first shot on the protesters the United Nations should have been in there negotiating with him about this. It would have saved buckets of blood. But it seems we have too many generals in this world and not enough ambassadors and diplomats."

Why has the UN been silenced? Why didn't Ban-Ki-Moon get out there on this and assert power of the UN?

I think we citizens who help support UN should be wondering about this.

He needs to step up his game in this crisis.

They were just killed conventionally K&R

regrettable collateral damage inflicted in the noble war against terra.

what folks learn getting MBA from Harvard. It's so cold and calculated...like selling a product. "Collateral Damage" replaces "Killing and Maiming of Innocent Bystanders, Civilians, Children, Shopkeepers, folks Asleep in their Beds..on and on.

It's "Code Word" for "You were in the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time for You Buddy..." and Too Bad you got TAKEN OUT with your family and children and the dog the cat and the Grandma and Grandpa.

NEXT TIME...Choose your Company and Associates from a Better Crowd!

Make damn sure you aren't born in a Middle Eastern country.

No...they are forgotten. They don't have a Big Time Campaign pushing more Death and Destruction based on information that is less Ballyhooed than even Chimpy Bush Did!

And what about Sandy Hook and those children mowed down by Gun Owner Kid...who needed some serious help. But they are dead and the killing goes on.

those Children Dead of War...ever inscribed in Arlington here in the USA? Would anyone ever think to inscribe the names of the Children dead in the Middle East due to the past decade that we paid for with our tax dollars?

I don't think anyone would have the courage to show "that face" of war. But, it's the reality of what we do and promote. And, its also South America and the people we supported there...and when we take down our installed Dictators...there is more death from the Dictator we installed and when we take the Dictator out ...saying we are installing ANOTHER ONE who will FINALLY bring DEMOCRACY.

Our Leaders in the USA...have a history now...of some cruel, horrible acts perpetuated on people in many parts of the world...because of Mineral, Oil, Water and Pipeline Rights. And Bankers just love this. Remember the Bankers we Bailed out? INVESTMENT BANKS...not Savings Banks like many of us grew up with ...but, banks for the RICH and Entitled...who rape the rest of us and go into countries and corrupt to make bucks for the 1%. And the children die...the parents & grandparents die...and the pets die or wander homeless. Those who may survive are left to be parsed off to some relative who might take them...or to be street wanderers caught up in constant war.

This goes beyond "Surgical, Precision Strikes" and "Drones" who only do "limited collateral damage." This is the Privileged waging war for the FEW who will benefit...on our tax dollars...out of our pocket and out of our suffering economy.

... is the hypocrisy of those who would defend a military strike in Syria over 1400 sarin deaths, yet said nothing about America intervening in Africa when 800,000 Tutsis were slaughtered in Rwanda.

What? There's no oil in Africa?... Oh, yeah.

TYY

should be seeing these crimes on MSNBC every day.

We are told that one of the ways the drone strikes work is to list all teenage males as 'terrorists'. IF that is the case, then many of those tragic deaths were deliberate.

number fewer than the numbers killed in Pakistan and Yemen.

No war in Syria!

...but the tally in Syria is definitely dubious.

TYY

Even one child's death from traditional warfare is not acceptable, nor is one child's or person's death acceptable from hunger or from lack of access to health care.

No MIC war in Syria! Cut the military budget and use that money to relieve the abject poverty of starving children right here at home. Invest in our crumbling infrastructure and weak economy. Create jobs in the U.S., not overseas.

TYY

that's what I'm trying to point out.

It's the endless wars and more "Surgical Strikes" ...or Drone Killings only adds to the toll.

And what about their Families and their Pets...that we DU'ers so love. The Doggies and the KITTEHS...bombed or homeless.

It's senseless killing by Contractors, Mercenaries and the "Coalition of the Willing."

Yet our President is now going to Campaign this week on MORE KILLING! But he will call it "Precision Surgical Strikes."

... Unfortunately, most Americans don't realize that.

TYY

It just seems to be getting worse...when we keep voting for Change...we get More of the Same Policies.

I hear ya....

What we're witnessing is the perpetual part of the ''Perpetual War'' concept. Killing innocent people is bound to drive others into the ranks of groups like al-Queda. Thus completing a cycle of renewal of new bodies to blow up.

- The symbiosity of Darkness.....

K&R

...that is the question we're about to answer. I've agreed to stop killing innocent people.

- Now it's up to the rest of the 6,999,999,999 of you......

but the people in charge seem to listen to other forces

...because they realize that this is the end of one paradigm and the beginning of another. A paradigm which doesn't include a role for the kind of being they are.

It is their darkest hour, before the dawn.....

in the 60's and now. We just have to keep trying.

The real Faces and Tragedy of all Wars and military engagements.

when they are killed for freedom and democracy and when Jebus is giving the orders to bomb those Muslim infidels.
What sort of patriot are you? Why do you hate America?

gruesome images of death of the children in foreign countries. Yet...women are portrayed in these tragic situations as bystanders mourning/wailing, grieving...but not real, somehow. Somehow too emotional because they are poor. The REAL WOMEN are the Fox/Bloomberg News/Financial Sites and other media BABES. Polished, Toned, Perfect Hair and Bodies...and they have NANNIES! Or, they are Career Women...privileged and above those "street women" in foreign countries or "poor or middle classed areas of the USA"when tragedy strikes. It's always folks who live poor or middle class lives that they "oooh and ahhh over" if they can find the emotion to get that far with a shake of the head and a sad eye. Most of them don't even bother with that...they just move on to the next story because it has NOTHING to do with their own privileged lives.

Mainstream Media....it's beyond disgusting how out of touch these people are. And they are chosen and paid to be "out of touch" to make us feel that we just don't "make the cut of the privileged." The well groomed men are as bad as the well groomed women. But, I get angrier at the female anchors and talking heads on MSM because they WEAR their entitled and I expect better out of them.

I've turned them off - too much to take

Hoping I would get a discussion of the opposing views of the public and Democrats. All I got was some kind of marketing of whether the latest released gruesome photos of gassed children would turn the tide for the President. One of the panelists even said that Obama rolled out the Campaign in August and that wasn't the time to send a product to market when no one is paying attention. She was quoting someone who said that to Bush..(I can't remember the name) but, she was saying that it hadn't gone well and it would depend on how much he could get interviews out there before his speech to convince people of why we need to do this. The rest of the panel was in agreement that he needed to do more convincing. They were all young bright and seemed to be pro-Obama Democrats.

All I could think while each panelist was speaking the President is out on the Campaign trail again...and this panel is thinking of how he can find a convincing strategy to sell Sell US War as a Product! I had to turn it off.

War is peace!
Ignorance is strength!
Freedom is slavery!

So, let's go drop some more bombs on Syria this time

I've been debating doing it for the past several days. After Bush's initial Shock & Awe campaign in Iraq, I was so horrified by the photos, they eventually became my first video. I like to think my skills have improved through the years. Nonetheless, this crude first attempt captures the promises the BFEE made regarding the great care they were taking to protect civilians during the bombing campaign, and the stark, deeply disturbing photos that were coming out at the same time.

If anyone thinks cruise missiles won't cause the same human suffering in Syria, they are not living in reality. I'm posting the video here as a reminder of that suffering, and will hopefully give people pause before supporting yet, another shock and awe campaign.

Warning: Extremely Graphic Photos

Very well done, Oilwellian.

Thanks for the thread, KoKo.

Didn't you get the memo?

Yay for exceptional America!

This is not easy to post or read,
but something needed to be posted to counter balance the Pro-WAR crowd postings of the children allegedly killed by Assad.

I've never understood HOW killing even MORE children is supposed to make up for the ones killed by somebody else.

I will now only have to post a link back to this post anytime the War Promoters at DU post their grisly photos in an attempt to gin up support for the US killing even MORE Syrians,
or try to claim that the anti-WAR movement supports DEAD BABIES!!!

a somber DURec.

and UNIONS back to the USA before we ALL FALL DOWN...

Thanks for responding. It's really going to be some BIG STRUGGLES AHEAD...it seems..Going Forward.

Glad to know you on DU...for the ROAD AHEAD! May the Wind Be At Our BACKS...and the JOURNEY be FILLED with HELPERS...along that dark road we have chosen.