At least, not when those cultural practices harm women and children. We have to respect those cultures.

And, I'm a female feminist.

This kind of shit is beyond the pale, but telling a woman who wants to cover herself that she can't because, well, we're telling her what to wear, is equally as sexist.

When it comes to the point of child-rape and physical harm, yes, we should intervene. Worrying over what a woman wears is tiring.

I have no problem with "imposing" my western views of child rape, slavery, etc on others. NONE.


And post #11. It's like I'm fucking psychic.

My apologies if I thought that you were one to tell women what to wear from bikinis to the burka.

My point was, simply, that I agree that we should impose Western culture when it's clearly obvious that a person is harmed. However, DU is famous for telling women they can't wear burkas, while simultaneously suggesting women should be whores, depending on the market.

Could you link me to say 2 posts where DU women told women they couldn't wear burkas and should be whores instead? Thanks.

This is beyond either.

I know, I know, it'll never happen.

Sick fucks.

Precisely how is it you propose we change what other cultures do?

Yes, it's barbaric and awful, that isn't even debatable, but please detail exactly what your plan is to enforce our world view on people who do NOT share it.

Oh yeah, please do it with a method that DOESN'T just piss more people off at us and make us more enemies, we've got plenty already.

Work for education, for starters.

I don't know how, exactly, but I'm sure there are ways to get the message out without looking like the Ugly American.

... are going there and "working from within?"

I look around this nation and see all kinds of injustice and economic unfairness and hatred and prejudice and hungry kids and multitudes of families homeless, joblessness, full time employees qualifying for Food Stamps...

I am more inclined to put my effort into cleaning up our yard first. I see almost nothing being done about that.

Maybe I've just reached outrage burnout.

I didn't mean to imply that we need to ignore our own problems; I was simply stating that education is a way to reach the young women in that culture.

If you fuck an 8 year old to death, your culture can go fuck itself if you hide behind it. Don't care who I piss off with that. Not worried about pissing off someone that fucks an 8 year old girl to death. Or his family or friends. Or his government.

That will really help. You're reggalar dip-low-mat.

that don't employ the use of bombs to get a point across. How about derision? How about calling this "culture" backwards and uncivilized? How about not ignoring what is happening to our sisters all over the world because we're not perfect ourselves? Should we just pretend it doesn't exist? Or just chalk it up to "hey, whatever gets you through the night and who are we to have an opinion on it?" And Heavens - how will we ever survive if the animals that support this kind of behavior get pissed off at us???

is here:

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/yemen1211ForUpload_0.pdf

I mean, She did.

I mean, this is terribly objectionable, but if I lodge a complaint about this culture where women are subjugated, I may be a Western patriarchal type who just doesn't understand the choices . . .

Ok, that is as far as I could manage that sentence.

No, it's barbaric.

whether a 17 year old is a child or not under international law, but damn, I think everyone can agree that an 8 year old certainly is one.

I assume this was an arranged "marriage" since I doubt the little girl was asking to get hitched to a 40 yr old. Setting that issue aside... at what age would it be okay? I'm sorry, but at 8, I think I'd be giving a bullet as a wedding gift. So... how old. 18? 16? ... 14? I'd really like to know what people's opinion is.

has anything to do with that. Will people use this story to foment anti-Islamic sentiment? Of course.

As for the comparison to men raping children here in the U.S "without a pretense of a ceremony", that's a spurious comparison. Or do you actually think that only happens in the U.S.?

There is just no words to fully describe how utterly EVIL destroying little kids' lives is.

On a somewhat related note I watched that 2010 Frontline episode about the boy dancers in Afghanistan. It was disturbing as hell.

What IS it about some men (and yes, it is almost always men) who resort to exploitative, degenerate behavior against those too weak to defend themselves?