Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:26 PM Feb 2012

Woman 'burned down 3,500-year-old tree because she needed light to see what drugs she was taking'

A young model allegedly set a fire that caused one of the world's oldest cypress trees to burn and collapse because she needed light in the darkness to see what drugs she was doing.

Sara Barnes, 26, of Winter Park, Florida, was identified by two witnesses as the person who caused the 118ft bald cypress tree named ‘The Senator’ to burn and collapse on January 16, police said.

The woman allegedly took photos of the fire on the 3,500-year-old tree with her phone but did not call 911 - and authorities found methamphetamine, scales and drug paraphernalia at her home.


One of the first photos seen on her public Facebook profile is of clumps of marijuana. Agricultural officials searched her home on Tuesday and also confiscated her mobile phone and laptop.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108028/Sara-Barnes-burned-3-500-year-old-tree-called-The-Senator-needed-drugs-doing.html

The stupidity and waste of it all....

43 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Woman 'burned down 3,500-year-old tree because she needed light to see what drugs she was taking' (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2012 OP
"Young model"? Richardo Feb 2012 #1
It's the mileage.... FarCenter Feb 2012 #3
A 26 year-old model? Yeah, right, she looks more like a LuvNewcastle Feb 2012 #2
26 year old tweakers sharp_stick Feb 2012 #4
How does meth do that? Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #14
In addition to the horrible sharp_stick Feb 2012 #16
I wonder if possession of meth carries the same prison sentence as crack cocaine? Zalatix Feb 2012 #28
I dunno sharp_stick Feb 2012 #37
I don't have an answer but madokie Feb 2012 #31
The "pure" stuff is just as bad bhikkhu Feb 2012 #38
Before the meth, I bet she was quite pretty abowsh Feb 2012 #5
pretty girl strung out on drugs Voice for Peace Feb 2012 #13
I can see that she was pretty before the drugs Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #18
Meth -- the worst drug that I know of. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #6
"Okay. I can see that." HopeHoops Feb 2012 #7
There's a market for facial lesion and bags-under-the-eyes models? Who knew? 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #8
Sad for her, sad for the tree. Brickbat Feb 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #10
come on....stupid move by a drug addict doesn't call for Nazi tactics DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #21
We do get better. Iggo Feb 2012 #35
Model of what? AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #11
Yet many here think meth should be among legalized drugs Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #12
Many of us think all drugs should be de-criminilized. Webster Green Feb 2012 #19
I'd like to make a smart assed comment, but I can't. FrodosPet Feb 2012 #34
Many here? Really? LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #39
Found this pic of her. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #15
She was pretty, that meth will destroy you fast. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #23
She still is. Iggo Feb 2012 #36
I agree on both counts, but this wasn't "only a tree" Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #41
She just barely makes it when she was in her prime. LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #40
Legalize it! nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #17
Tragic. Waste. SalviaBlue Feb 2012 #20
WTF? Webster Green Feb 2012 #22
this may be the best thing that could've happened to her. frylock Feb 2012 #24
OMG the senator?? felix_numinous Feb 2012 #25
How does one burn down a [live] tree of such stature? Earth_First Feb 2012 #26
It was probably rotton on the inside, considering it was topped 80+ years ago csziggy Feb 2012 #27
"I can't believe I burned down a tree older then Jesus." JVS Mar 2012 #43
Model????? we can do it Feb 2012 #29
Drugs for everyone!!!! greytdemocrat Feb 2012 #30
Them being illegal didn't stop this, did it? Fumesucker Feb 2012 #32
I support universal decriminalization of Pot under specific amounts. bluestate10 Feb 2012 #33
Nicotine leads to addiction and heavy dependency very rapidly.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #42

LuvNewcastle

(16,860 posts)
2. A 26 year-old model? Yeah, right, she looks more like a
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:31 PM
Feb 2012

40 year-old tweaker. They should make her snort the ashes of that tree.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
4. 26 year old tweakers
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:42 PM
Feb 2012

do look about 40 if they're lucky. For a meth head she actually looks pretty good.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
16. In addition to the horrible
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:34 PM
Feb 2012

physical addiction that makes a lot of chronic users abandon any form of self care methamphetamine use dries out the skin allowing sores to form and not heal properly, when that's added to the sunken eyes and easy bruising the effect is striking and shocking.

It also dries out the mouth leading to a condition known as meth mouth with rotting teeth and gums, this can in severe cases cause the jaw to kind of collapse inward at the mandibular joint, this makes the person look like one of those pictures of old people without their false teeth in.

The change in appearance can happen so fast that the addict is barely recognizable in less than a year.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
31. I don't have an answer but
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:37 PM
Feb 2012

being an old used to be pot smoker I was around some people who were meth heads and what is said that you replied to is true. I suspect the poisons in the homemade meth is what ages them

bhikkhu

(10,725 posts)
38. The "pure" stuff is just as bad
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:13 PM
Feb 2012

...the idea that home-cooking is the cause of the problem and not meth itself is a stupid myth. Its been addicting and killing people as long as its been around, even when the main supply was legitimate manufacturers. Though I wouldn't argue that screwed-up batches might not kill people in different ways.

 

abowsh

(45 posts)
5. Before the meth, I bet she was quite pretty
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:48 PM
Feb 2012

It's amazing the physical damage that meth does to a person. I don't think it's possible to hide a meth addiction.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
13. pretty girl strung out on drugs
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:15 PM
Feb 2012

I would wager sexually abused in childhood.
Not an excuse for burning down a tree but explains so much about a life.

Response to n2doc (Original post)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
21. come on....stupid move by a drug addict doesn't call for Nazi tactics
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Feb 2012

And yes, I literally mean Nazi tactics.

Stop.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
19. Many of us think all drugs should be de-criminilized.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:45 PM
Feb 2012

It isn't as though prohibition has been a huge success. We're talking about harm-reduction, not advocating use.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
34. I'd like to make a smart assed comment, but I can't.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:06 PM
Feb 2012

This crap is nothing but poison, and what it does to people is tragic.

It's NOT victimless, or even limited to one victim. And selling the good, pure, legal government regulated shit down at the liquor store is NOT going to make it any less victimless.

Love and treat the users. Get them treatment. And destroy anyone who makes or sells it.

Iggo

(47,574 posts)
36. She still is.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:19 PM
Feb 2012

She can still get better. At 26, she's still young enough to save herself and rescue what's left of her potential. It's hard but I've seen it happen a hundred times.

Sad about the tree, yes. But I'm thankful it was only a tree, and not a house with people in it. This coulda been way worse.

Uncle Joe

(58,451 posts)
41. I agree on both counts, but this wasn't "only a tree"
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:23 PM
Feb 2012

One of the world's oldest Cypress Trees at 3500 years, that's a lot of irreplaceable emotional and physical history, a living time capsule of sorts.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
22. WTF?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 03:08 PM
Feb 2012

I visited the tree when I lived in Seminole County, Florida. This is horrible!

If she wanted more illumination, it seems like walking away from the tree would have made more sense than burning it down. That's meth for you though. People using meth usually don't make too much sense.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
24. this may be the best thing that could've happened to her.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 04:31 PM
Feb 2012

as tweekers go, she doesn't look too far along. at least her physical attributes. it's pretty obvious that shit has effected her ability to reason.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
25. OMG the senator??
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:27 PM
Feb 2012

Yea absolutely...what a waste

I've smelled it unfortunately, whew! Though I am a supporter of making drug abuse a medical and not a legal problem, meth seems to be in a class by itself, because it is so poisonous.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
27. It was probably rotton on the inside, considering it was topped 80+ years ago
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:23 PM
Feb 2012

By a hurricane. Plus, there has been a very long drought in that area, so it was likely pretty dry.

One of the best things to use to start a fire is "punk" or partially rotted wood that is very dry. If that tree had a rotten middle - and they can be rotten down to the ground (or water) level, it could have had a chimney effect.

Yep - it was hollow:

However, through Crimeline tips, they learned Barnes and a friend were inside the tree taking methamphetamine.

Agents said Barnes took pictures of the fire and downloaded the images to her cellphone and computer. Officials said she showed people the images, and said "I can't believe I burned down a tree older then Jesus."

Flames burned the tree from the inside out.

Barnes admitted to authorities that she lit the fire.
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/woman-admits-she-burned-down-senator/nK7cc/

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
33. I support universal decriminalization of Pot under specific amounts.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:52 PM
Feb 2012

I don't like the idea of a teen that gets caught with a few ounces of pot for his or her personal use being dragged through the criminal justice system and potentially thrown in jail. But before I would support decriminalization of other drugs, I would need to see research that shows that using those drugs in controlled amounts does not lead to addiction and heavy dependency.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
42. Nicotine leads to addiction and heavy dependency very rapidly..
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:17 AM
Mar 2012

And the prime delivery method of nicotine, tobacco, kills hundreds of thousands of Americans every year..

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Woman 'burned down 3,500-...