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On October 26, President Kennedy was still leaning towards military action to eliminate the missiles in Cuba. Operation Mongoose planning in the Pentagon focused on using Cuban sabotage units to attack the missile sites and on installing a government after an invasion. At 6pm, a letter arrived from Khrushchev to President Kennedy: "The missiles would be removed if the US promised not to invade Cuba."[63] Castro, on the other hand, was convinced that an invasion of Cuba was soon at hand, and on October 26, he sent a telegram to Khrushchev that appeared to call for a preemptive nuclear strike on the US. However, in a 2010 interview, Castro said of his recommendation for the Soviets to attack America before they made any move against Cuba: "After I've seen what I've seen, and knowing what I know now, it wasn't worth it at all."[64] Castro also ordered all anti-aircraft weapons in Cuba to fire on any US aircraft,[65] whereas in the past they had been ordered only to fire on groups of two or more. At 6:00 am EDT on October 27, the CIA delivered a memo reporting that three of the four missile sites at San Cristobal and the two sites at Sagua la Grande appeared to be fully operational. They also noted that the Cuban military continued to organize for action, although they were under order not to initiate action unless attacked.
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Within the US establishment, it was well understood that ignoring the second offer and returning to the first put Khrushchev in a terrible position. Military preparations continued, and all active duty Air Force personnel were recalled to their bases for possible action. Robert Kennedy later recalled the mood, "We had not abandoned all hope, but what hope there was now rested with Khrushchev's revising his course within the next few hours. It was a hope, not an expectation. The expectation was military confrontation by Tuesday, and possibly tomorrow ...".
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With the letter delivered, a deal was on the table. However, as Robert Kennedy noted, there was little expectation it would be accepted. At 9:00 pm EDT, the EXCOMM met again to review the actions for the following day. Plans were drawn up for air strikes on the missile sites as well as other economic targets, notably petroleum storage. McNamara stated that they had to "have two things ready: a government for Cuba, because we're going to need one; and secondly, plans for how to respond to the Soviet Union in Europe, because sure as hell they're going to do something there".
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On October 27, after much deliberation between the Soviet Union and Kennedy's cabinet, Kennedy secretly agreed to remove all missiles set in southern Italy and in Turkey, the latter on the border of the Soviet Union, in exchange for Khrushchev removing all missiles in Cuba.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_missile_crisis
It's interesting to speculate what the reaction of some would have been to JFK's "warmongering".
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Thus, it represented a clear and present threat to the safety of Americans and the security of the nation.
The Syrian civil war represents none of those things. So stop trying to make these ridiculous comparisons.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Nothing ill-advised and precipitate, but plenty of smart diplomacy leading to a satisfactory outcome.
Interesting how history repeats itself.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)If that was the main issue here, it wouldn't explain why we've done nothing until now.
No, this action was suppose to be in retaliation for the chemical weapons attack in Syria. Which had nothing to do with US national security interests.
I'm not buying what you're selling.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)as opposed to that of an unstable dictator, makes us all safer.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Then all bets are off.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)What could possibly go wrong?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)purchase Sarin at fire-sale prices.
The possibilities are endless.....
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)They are in essence highly potent pesticides (organophosophates).
Stopping Syria from having them will not stop anyone else.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Not that it matters. Obama did not want war to protect the US.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)FAIL.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)And Obama to Kennedy?
Kennedy was a great president, and could have been one of the best ever if he had'nt been assassinated.
President Obama? Not in the same league.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Don't worry, I feel your pain.
pampango
(24,692 posts)actions on the diplomatic front.
Kennedy wanted a diplomatic solution but was willing to use pressure from the military to help bring this about. Would Kennedy have used force if negotiations had not worked? One guy wasn't sure - Khrushchev. It worked because Kennedy wanted a peaceful resolution and played hardball to get it.
In the case of Bush/Cheney/McCain, it would not work because they have no fundamental interest in peaceful negotiations except as a prelude to war. That is the mirror image of Kennedy and Obama.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts).
Hekate
(90,690 posts)How people here, bobble-heads in the 24/7 news cycle, and the RW/GOP judge the outcome will depend 100% on what they thought of the President before this.
This is brinksmanship, and I think that's why those of us who remember the Cuban Missile Crisis have it so on our minds, minus the sheer terror of those days. Of course the situation at home is vastly different -- the US is currently without trust in our own government, thanks to Dubya, and also sick to death of unwinnable war in the Middle East, also thanks to Dubya.
Dubya didn't do brinksmanship, or diplomacy either. Dubya and the NeoCons (sounds like the name of a crummy but very loud band) just charged in and bashed away. They were the proverbial hammer to whom every problem looks like a nail. They leave quite the legacy, and poisonous mistrust of our own government is a big part of it. Obama is not Bush, but some can't keep that straight in their minds.
The place in foreign policy where the personalities and methods of both JFK and Barack Obama overlap is that Obama does do diplomacy, and as we are now discovering, he does brinksmanship as well.
Someone here commented that the Cold War is over. The problem is: has anyone shared that with Putin? The man who spends time every summer showing off his manly physique so everyone gets the message that he is ready for a brawl should he wish to engage in one, that man made his bones in the KGB of the Cold War.
As to your last sentence: If JFK were president now he'd be excoriated from morning til night, same as FDR would be, for having the audacity to have feet of clay. At least at DU and in the GOP.