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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"You know the look..."
Really?
Well, I guess that they wouldn't have a problem with these guys before they got famous...
Jared Loughner
Adam Lanza
James Holmes
What does a "responsible gun owner" look like again?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Nine
(1,741 posts)I guess if another gun shop said they wouldn't sell to anyone who looks like Larry the Cable Guy, that would be fine too. A photo like that certainly wouldn't go viral over the right wing echo machine as an example of discrimination against them, no-sir-ee-bob.
Phillyindy
(406 posts)"Ain't nothing more dangerous then poor white people...they're capable of anything!"
mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Freedumb!!!!
Dash87
(3,220 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,906 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)I can't help it that I once lived in a place like that. I would have to amend the mention of the beer keg, though. Since it was a dry county.
Had to cross the line into another county to get a case of beer or hard stuff. No kidding. Wasn't any problem for anyone I knew living there. But hardly anyone lived there.
The ratio of cattle to humans was about a hundred to one, cattle ahead of people. Cows make fine neighbors.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)...could you explain please what qualities characterize a "well regulated Militia"?
Thanks
freshwest
(53,661 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)I was hoping for a verbal answer (not pictures) but I did get what I expected.
Since you posted a picture which claimed some folks as a "not well regulated militia" I had hoped you had some criteria that you were able to explain that would characterize a "well regulated militia".
freshwest
(53,661 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)Have a nice day.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Whitey Bulger, Mob boss
Whitey's right hand executioner...
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)Get a white man (or white woman) and a young black man who are about the same size. Have the white person dress "like a gangbanger". Have white person walk into the store and buy x (on a credit card so it can be refunded).
Then have white person trade clothes in the nearest bathroom or other private secluded area with the young black man. Have the black person walk into the store and buy x as well.
Hidden cameras should be utilized.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)And I'm sure they'd gladly accept this man's money:
Probably take a picture of them with him and frame it above their counter.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... I look at Loughner (later pic) and I see plain old batshit fucking crazy.
I look at Lanza and it makes me sad: I see a very unhappy, confused, lonley and probably over (or mis-) medicated teen. What he did, probably wouldn't have happened if someone just gave a shit about him.
His mama gave a shit about him. She bought assault weapons, bullets and other shit for him. What could go wrong?
(You are right, Myrina, I am just kidding).
Myrina
(12,296 posts)WaitWut
(71 posts)It practically made itself.
proReality
(1,628 posts)All those people have truly weird eyes. Creepy.
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)go up to that glass door and paste those pictures up there..
Response to MrScorpio (Original post)
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MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Am I supposed to be impressed?
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thanks, Skinner.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)Sissyk
(12,665 posts)but I'll try.
Responsible gun owners look like my husband and me. And millions of other law abiding citizens of this country.
I get your point about the bigoted, racist sign. I do. But the way to combat that is not by showing pictures of mentally ill killers and asking if they are responsible gun owners.
I will help you fight racism 8 days of the week, MrScorpio. But, I don't want to give up my rights as a responsible gun owner, or be punished, because of evil like you have listed above.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)However, it's no secret that, in this country, gun violence is classified by ethnicity:
The impression that we're given here is that White gun owners simply don't shoot other people unless they're mentally ill, while a POC would only shoot someone if they're a "gangbanger," "terrorist," or "illegal immigrant." That somehow, Whites are even less criminal than someone else who would have committed the same acts if they were a POC instead.
To me, Holmes, Lanza and Loughner are the epitome of terrorism and criminality and simply dismissing them as being mentally ill only does nothing except diminishes the impact of their acts.
In my book, they're not getting off that easy.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)so it's, as you say, not about me.
Sorry to interrupt.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)is the son of a respected (so I'm told) NRA training counselor...true story
If you really want to laugh (or cry), the dude eventually became a cop, and is still serving today....
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)1. I don't think you'd lie.
2. I don't know anyone with the NRA to say how they raise their kids.
3. There is bad apples in every buschel...counselors, cops.
I hope he has grown up since then or that he never has a reason to pull his weapon around Innocent people.
I dislike irresponsible gun owners. Deeply! And I have known one or two of those.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)when I see folk dressed in a manner that raises one of my eyebrows it's never the baggy pants crowd - usually it's a gal in her 50's sporting a mini skirt and cleavage - what's the chances of seeing signs addressing THAT look?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)We see what they're getting at right away.
GalaxyHunter
(271 posts)what does a dead beat look like?
what does a welfare queen look like?
what does a 1%er look like?
What does a Democrat look like?
What does a Republican look like?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I'm interested to know.
GalaxyHunter
(271 posts)any one of them can look like another, even thought one might love guns and the other might hate them.
I have seen people I could call successful wearing old torn clothes because they feel comfortable, not because they are so poor that they can't afford anything else.
Just because someone looks a certain way doesn't mean they are.
Is that what you were looking for?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Because the owner of that business created a specific depiction of whom they DIDN'T think a "responsible" gun owner would be, but yet they did not take into account the three shown above.
Now of course, we ONLY know of their names and faces because of their actions, not their looks... So why would those three not be pointed out as a faulty example by the creator of they sign IF they had not committed their horrendous acts of violence?
GalaxyHunter
(271 posts)how do you know for sure those three would not be included in what they said?
Like you said we don't know their looks.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)The point is that I would NOT have used them as examples IF they had NOT committed acts of gun violence.
The writer of that sign would not have associated the three with irresponsible gun ownership were they not known from their actions. Also, the writer did use a clear and concise description of whom they believe a irresponsible gun owner would be... Even if they did not use an example of someone actually who committed acts of gun violence, their descriptive appearance of someone whom they believe to be irresponsible (solely without regard to the three) is enough for them.
So, is the WRITER in the wrong or not?
I pointed out people who have, in fact, committed act of violence, regardless of their look... So there's no argument that Lanza, Loughner and Holmes look like responsible gun owners when you and I KNOW they they really aren't.