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Holy Shit Colorado! (Original Post) gopiscrap Sep 2013 OP
I'm hoping beyond hope Raine1967 Sep 2013 #1
I hope that is the case also...I have a couple of really close friends we haven't heard gopiscrap Sep 2013 #4
:( As was said below, it could be that no news is good news. Raine1967 Sep 2013 #20
Yeah, I'm hoping that is the case also. NOne of my friends' relatives gopiscrap Sep 2013 #24
the count has been flucuating back and forth dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #11
My friend has simply touched base on FB. Raine1967 Sep 2013 #19
FB has valuable and important aspects, indeed. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #50
I have friends that haven't heard from daughter yet marlakay Sep 2013 #32
I've never seen a flooding event here in the US in which thay've said... Cooley Hurd Sep 2013 #2
Katrina Link Speed Sep 2013 #5
My error... Cooley Hurd Sep 2013 #7
Truth is this is the largest chopper rescue malaise Sep 2013 #8
There will never be any follow-up Link Speed Sep 2013 #14
I agree philosslayer Sep 2013 #21
There was a time I wouldnt have believed mahina Sep 2013 #22
"we know we will be on our own" NOLALady Sep 2013 #25
I can corroborate this story. I live near Orange, Texas and he was interviewed by our local paper Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #26
True dat, Link. nolabear Sep 2013 #39
The Johnstown Flood is legendary... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #48
and 19,000 homes destroyed or damaged. they are hoping that the "unaccounted for" are merely niyad Sep 2013 #3
that's what the news was saying that it is likely that the vast majority gopiscrap Sep 2013 #10
Wow. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #6
Me too! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #9
I am not finding any internet news On Colorado except here on DU Heather MC Sep 2013 #12
Try these links: intheflow Sep 2013 #15
#coflooding on twitter pasto76 Sep 2013 #28
This site has tons of photos: Coyotl Sep 2013 #29
The Terrain is pretty rough out there jimlup Sep 2013 #13
Much of the bad flooding is now happening on the plains. intheflow Sep 2013 #18
this is just terrible TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #16
Given that they aren't finding bodies right and left in the aftermath, I am optimistic kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #17
maybe it's just dislocation> bad communication? Long Island had terrible phone service KittyWampus Sep 2013 #23
I was offered a job at Maxtor years ago in Longmont. Over time I have wondered jtuck004 Sep 2013 #27
We were suppose to stay with a couple in my travel club marlakay Sep 2013 #34
The Occupy Boulder Flood Relief Facebook page is a good resource starroute Sep 2013 #30
Didn't think of that-thanks! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #31
I have a friend in Colorado who is in the thick of it deutsey Sep 2013 #33
me too...my friends haven't FB'd since early Wed. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #35
I hope they're ok, gopiscrap deutsey Sep 2013 #37
Thanks I hope everyone's ok gopiscrap Sep 2013 #40
My backyard flooded during Irene and Sandy deutsey Sep 2013 #41
We live in the foothills just above Boulder, kag Sep 2013 #36
the confirmed fatalities are are now 5 gopiscrap Sep 2013 #38
i felt so sad when i read about those kids fizzgig Sep 2013 #42
I heard those two were only 19 gopiscrap Sep 2013 #43
Red Cross Safe and Well riverwalker Sep 2013 #44
listening to one of the local weather guessers, who said threat of flooding our area had passed-- niyad Sep 2013 #45
The mountains are beautiful, but brutal. Remember the Big Thompson Canyon flood? alfredo Sep 2013 #46
So sad. This is basically a tsunami. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #47
Unholy Shit... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #49
Be safe! Rex Sep 2013 #51
.. Cha Sep 2013 #52
Hey just heard from my friends gopiscrap Sep 2013 #53

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
1. I'm hoping beyond hope
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:38 PM
Sep 2013

that what media is saying -- that they believe the missing are due to lack of communication -- are true.

I have a friend out there. he said yesterday that he is fine, just some water leaking in his basement, but I worry.

gopiscrap

(23,762 posts)
4. I hope that is the case also...I have a couple of really close friends we haven't heard
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:41 PM
Sep 2013

from since Wednesday.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
20. :( As was said below, it could be that no news is good news.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:21 PM
Sep 2013

Sending out thoughts that your friends are high and dry.

I really think that the unaccounted number might be due to the lack of being able to communicate.

The pictures I have seen are terrible -- I'm sure that people have been cut off from being able to call or get out.

gopiscrap

(23,762 posts)
24. Yeah, I'm hoping that is the case also. NOne of my friends' relatives
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:51 PM
Sep 2013

have heard anything, so most of them are thinking things are ok and they're just stuck with out communications.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. the count has been flucuating back and forth
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:56 PM
Sep 2013

as people are found, others not "accounted for".
Just means that for now no news may be good news, in that these are not body counts, but simply people who for now can not be located.
More than possible that Facebook has info. on folks that the "officials" may not have.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
19. My friend has simply touched base on FB.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:17 PM
Sep 2013

I like here and there on his page. I agree that at this point, no news is good news.

I know a lot of people aren't fans of the BoF (book of face ) but these are times when it does help to know how people are doing.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
50. FB has valuable and important aspects, indeed.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:05 AM
Sep 2013

After we here in Alabama went thru those devasting tornadoes couple years back
someone on FB organized a page that people all over the SE could list any pics, mail, etc they found miles away from
where the tornadoes hit.
People in Tennesee were finding Alabama scraps, people in Alabama were finding Mississippi papers, posting them.
Many storm victims were able to get at least a pic or 2 of a loved one back.
Reading those postings made me cry.

marlakay

(11,480 posts)
32. I have friends that haven't heard from daughter yet
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:29 PM
Sep 2013

Right in middle of area. They are hoping she is just busy.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
2. I've never seen a flooding event here in the US in which thay've said...
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:38 PM
Sep 2013

"1,200 unaccounted for"

Jesus!!

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
5. Katrina
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:43 PM
Sep 2013

They never released hard figures.

Remember when the Idiot's Admin forbade flights over the Gulf south of NOLA?

There was a reason for that.

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
14. There will never be any follow-up
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:09 PM
Sep 2013

I am convinced the levee was 'blown'.

If the US economy ever recovers, we will see hotels and casinos where the 9th used to be. I am a musician who has spent a lot of time in New Orleans and I have played with the best. I know people who have not heard from their families since FEMA scattered them to the winds.

New Orleans was third on the Most Hated List (R), behind San Francisco and NYC.

Three days after Katrina, Gatemouth Brown called me and said (among other things), "They gonna kill us all". He then went to his daughter's home (his childhood home) in Orange, Texas, laid down on her couch and died.



 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
21. I agree
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:22 PM
Sep 2013

The aftermath of Katrina was no accident. The Bush administration saw it as the perfect way to "solve" a problem, and made sure that the levees didn't survive the storm. I think the death toll was considerably larger than what was reported, and I believe the stories of executions by police and military of civilians after the storm was over. Think about it... total chaos, no communications, no news coverage in large parts of the city. It was, for the Bush administration, a perfect opportunity to do a little domestic "house cleaning."

mahina

(17,682 posts)
22. There was a time I wouldnt have believed
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:36 PM
Sep 2013

it, but the response to Katrina broke all our hearts. It was obvious we were considered disposable, even from here. It was and remains the most brutal mass action againt our people in my lifetime.

When we think about disaster prep we remember Katrina, and we know we will be on our own.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
26. I can corroborate this story. I live near Orange, Texas and he was interviewed by our local paper
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:58 PM
Sep 2013

and at least one of the TV stations before he passed. That was the message he wanted to get out before he died. "Gate Mouth" Brown was a blues man of some repute, an amazing talent who had been playing the blues forever. He had seen it all and was convinced that the outrageously poor response was intentional! I am involved in the BP oil spill litigation and have been to NOLA many times, before and after Katrina. It's hard to argue against Gate Mouth!

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
39. True dat, Link.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:38 PM
Sep 2013

This is the worst since Katrina, and that's saying a hell of a lot. I don't know if those levees were blown but I do know they let NO get by with an antiquated, poorly run levee system and pumping stations and life just plain ended for whole generations.

I hope they give those people all the help they need. Who'd have thought Colorado?

niyad

(113,492 posts)
3. and 19,000 homes destroyed or damaged. they are hoping that the "unaccounted for" are merely
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:40 PM
Sep 2013

unable to contact anyone. this is has been one incredible week, and it is STILL raining.

gopiscrap

(23,762 posts)
10. that's what the news was saying that it is likely that the vast majority
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:51 PM
Sep 2013

of those unaccounted for are just with out communication capability. It's frustrating tho...keep hoping to hear from my good friends and it's unnerving because every time I hear a broadcast about the floods, the umber of missing keeps going up and not down.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
6. Wow.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:46 PM
Sep 2013

Read about this on Weather Underground and was truly shocked. I hope those folks are just sitting around in candlelight waiting to get connected again.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
12. I am not finding any internet news On Colorado except here on DU
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 08:56 PM
Sep 2013

I can't believe a state is drowning and my News Feeds are not mentioning it at all

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
13. The Terrain is pretty rough out there
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:07 PM
Sep 2013

so I'm optimistic that much of this list is due to the fact that bridges and roads are washed out and people can't get to a place where they are accounted for but they may well be safe in a safe shelter.

intheflow

(28,484 posts)
18. Much of the bad flooding is now happening on the plains.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:13 PM
Sep 2013

Not really rough terrain. The number of accounted for people has risen sharply since hitting the plains and moving eastward. But of course, especially in this era of cell phones, it's highly likely that people have just lost cell coverage and/or run out of battery with no way to recharge. I certainly hope so, anyway.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
17. Given that they aren't finding bodies right and left in the aftermath, I am optimistic
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:12 PM
Sep 2013

that the vast majority of those are just stuck without cell phone service or roads to get out by.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
23. maybe it's just dislocation> bad communication? Long Island had terrible phone service
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 09:44 PM
Sep 2013

after Sandy and we didn't even get the brunt of that storm.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
27. I was offered a job at Maxtor years ago in Longmont. Over time I have wondered
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:13 PM
Sep 2013

what I missed by not taking that one.

Now I know...

marlakay

(11,480 posts)
34. We were suppose to stay with a couple in my travel club
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:33 PM
Sep 2013

In Longmont next week, their home is under water so we are staying longer at daughters in Monument. I feel bad for them she was happy to be ok but depressed about losing photos.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
30. The Occupy Boulder Flood Relief Facebook page is a good resource
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:25 PM
Sep 2013

And I don't believe you need a Facebook account to access it. They're trying to emulate what Occupy Sandy has done over the past year in the Northeast by coordinating grassroots relief operations. They also link to news stories and have updates from people on the scene.

https://www.facebook.com/boulderfloodrelief?hc_location=stream

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
33. I have a friend in Colorado who is in the thick of it
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:32 PM
Sep 2013

Haven't seen FB posts from her over the past couple hours and am hoping she and her family are doing well.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
37. I hope they're ok, gopiscrap
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:38 PM
Sep 2013

Just because there's no word from them doesn't mean it's bad. It could mean they've lost power or had to move elsewhere and don't have access right now. I hope so.

gopiscrap

(23,762 posts)
40. Thanks I hope everyone's ok
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

I never suffered from a flood, but did have a house fire in which our family had to jump off of our roof. We lost everything. I know how scary it is, and I also know of the struggle to rebuild is. For many years after, every once in awhile I would turn around and look for something that wasn't there.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
41. My backyard flooded during Irene and Sandy
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:43 PM
Sep 2013

I don't mean just pooling. I mean potentially catastrophic flooding unless I sit out there in the elements keeping the drain clear.

Still, those instances were nothing compared to as what's happening in CO.

kag

(4,079 posts)
36. We live in the foothills just above Boulder,
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:36 PM
Sep 2013

and North Boulder creek runs just in front of our house. I truly think that many of the "missing" are people who have, for one reason or another, lost communication, or simply don't know that they are "missing".

The creek is running fast and hard, and it is dangerous, but in most places it is staying within its banks. The really tough problems are the ones just down the hill in Boulder and other front range towns where the water is rushing in a big fat hurry and has nowhere else to go. Lots of basements are flooding, ruining furniture, electrical equipment, etc. A friend of mine lost his state-of-the-art sound system, and so won't be doing any house concerts for a while.

I am sad for the families of the three fatalities, two of whom were only about twenty-years-old. But for the most part people are behaving pretty rationally, staying home if they can, and helping out their neighbors.

For those DUers who might not know, Boulder/Nederland/Jamestown is one of the left/progressive/democrat strongholds in the state. People are all about helping out their neighbors and doing what we can to improve the community, even if it just means staying off of the roads and letting the first responders do what they are trained to do.

niyad

(113,492 posts)
45. listening to one of the local weather guessers, who said threat of flooding our area had passed--
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:51 PM
Sep 2013

just before it started raining again.

still, we are much better off here than the northern part of the state. almost unimaginable--this is the sort of thing one can imagine seeing after a hurricane, not just rain.

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
46. The mountains are beautiful, but brutal. Remember the Big Thompson Canyon flood?
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 10:58 PM
Sep 2013
http://www.weather.com/encyclopedia/flood/tom76.html

Notice the Rural Route carrier. The mail must go through


gopiscrap

(23,762 posts)
53. Hey just heard from my friends
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:28 PM
Sep 2013

they are shook up but safe according to their parents! They were able to get a line out and make a call early this morning to her mom and dad in Olympia, Washington.

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