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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Lot Of People Are Very Upset That An Indian-American Woman Won The Miss America Pageant
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/a-lot-of-people-are-very-upset-that-an-indian-american-womanThey still do this pageant?
POOKIE.@Granvil_Colt Follow
And the Arab wins Miss America. Classic.
Jake Amick@jakeamick5 Follow
How the fuck does a foreigner win miss America? She is a Arab! #idiots
Hey, Flyover Country, guess who are the one group of people (other than Jews) Al Qaeda wants to kill more than they want to kill you? That's right...
EDIT: my wife had an interesting point: someone with skin as dark as hers would never win a pageant in India, sad to say.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Incredibly, hopelessly, shit-for-brains stupid.
That's all there is to it.
sakabatou
(42,165 posts)JI7
(89,259 posts)Journeyman
(15,036 posts)I always keep that in mind, and constantly reflect that not every "patch" in our quilt is cut square or properly stitched. In fact, there are many patches that are cut irregularly along both the warp and weft, and they are rarely if ever securely attached to anything, let alone woven in among the rest of us.
More's the pity for them. Life's better when you place other's ahead of yourself.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's something to ponder.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Some people are never happy with who they are.
Best advice I've received in recent years came from a t-shirt slogan:
"Be yourself. Everyone else is taken."
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Every ethnicity retaining its own character, but coming together to create something unique in itself.
Hobo
(757 posts)Hobo
longship
(40,416 posts)Indian <> Arab.
Sheesh, these people are dumb as a bag of hammers.
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)That level of stupidity is so stunning, it is hard to decide.
Beautiful woman. It is hard to look good crying!
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)We Caucasians are rapidly fading into protected minority status.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Arizona, Oklahoma, and Illinois were too.
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Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)The one with the tattoo was the right wing's favorite choice, too.
B Calm
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Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)that you are judging her on her appearance in this thread.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Tattooed? Long hair? Dark skin? Please enlighten me as I'm just an ignorant POS in flyover country.
pampango
(24,692 posts)The Miss America pageant has crowned its first winner from an Indian background an aspiring doctor who plans to use the $50,000 (£31,000) prize money to fund her studies sparking a flood of racist criticism on social media.
"I'm so happy this organisation has embraced diversity," 24-year-old Nina Davuluri said in her first press conference, moments after winning the crown in Atlantic City. "I'm thankful there are children watching at home who can finally relate to a new Miss America."
But within minutes of winning the title, Davuluri, whose talent routine was a Bollywood fusion dance, was the target of racist social media comments.
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Davuluri, however, brushed aside the negative comments. "I have to rise above that," she said. "I always viewed myself as first and foremost American."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/16/miss-america-winner-racist-criticism
Excellent! Good for her!
And not only is she gorgeous, apparently very very smart as well.
I will say though, I didn't even realize people still watch these pageants. This is the first I even knew there one last evening! lol!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Congrats New York City!
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)Well, Fayettville really. She won Miss Syracuse, then went on to win Miss NY. I prolly wouldn't know this but 'Cuse is my hometown. Yea, UPSTATE!!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Woo hoo!
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)malaise
(269,103 posts)The stupid burns! The racists expose their ignorance. Thanks ReTHUGs
pintobean
(18,101 posts)There are bigots and idiots everywhere. Your edit would indicate that you're aware of this.
Is the irony intentional?
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I was too pissed to keep reading to see if anyone else caught that. I guess I better get to a coast so I can be a REAL American.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)El Paso has a lovely beach! It's just a REALLY big one and the ocean is miles away.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)The south gets trashed here quite often. I love the south coast. It's a popular vacation destination in flyover country.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I was just joshin, also. I caught your vibe. I did my Basic Training and AIT at Ft. Jackson, SC and got to march and camp all through the woods there. It was gorgeous and unlike most of my fellow recruits, I had a wonderful time! lol Then again, I'm kind of weird.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)The all night silent march with full gear and pack really was nice in those woods. Cleaning out my weapon at 4 am on return...not so much.
November through March for both. I don't recall a Pvt. Jim Dandy though...
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Female barracks. Was a great experience looking back, now.
Was just listening to an amazing song called 'Coming Through' by a recently homeless army vet, Willis Earl Beal, on WBUR. Take a listen his voice and sound is really something:
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)for the most part. The whole War for Oil and getting shot for the health of all the oil companies turned me off to it. And I just LOVE the female barracks!
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)but we mixed with them in some classes and on training courses, and got some good eyefulls in the mess hall!
Joined when the first gulf war got going, but the rest of these oil for profit wars have been atrocious.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)And was back in (Called up) later that year, can't remember exactly when. All I really remember is watching the build up on TV with my kids and them asking if I would have to go. They were freaking out and having nightmares. It really sucked for them. That's why I feel the only coverage we should have of war is the gruesomeness of it. Show a bunch of bloody casualties every night while America shoves food in their faces and pretty soon we aren't going to war so much.
I wasn't happy about fighting for Bush Petroleum but I had taken an oath and given my word so I reported and did my duty. Now they can fuck off and send their own kids.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)"I feel the only coverage we should have of war is the gruesomeness of it. Show a bunch of bloody casualties every night while America shoves food in their faces and pretty soon we aren't going to war so much."
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MuseRider
(34,112 posts)I have been out and about and I have heard nothing about it. I did not even know it was already done. No comments, good or bad. I live in Kansas, ALWAYS considered fly over country.
**Personally I hope everyone keeps flying over. I want to keep my wide open spaces. Politics may be horrible here but the living space is wonderful Always a political point to work on too.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Love how you scorn bigotry with bigotry. Classic. Congrats!
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)That's unprecedented.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2013, 08:19 AM - Edit history (1)
Someone whose decent is Indian is American as much as someone whose descent is British. Someone who has one Kenyan parent is just as American as someone who has one Canadian parent.
Edit that I missed the thing about "flyover country" - I am actually from the flyover part of the country. Wave next time you're up there, OK?
Coyote_Bandit
(6,783 posts)Bigotry based on place of residence or origin is acceptable (flyober country) but bigotry based on skin color or national or ethnic origin isn't (Arab or dark sknned)?
Seriously, you shold think about editing that post......
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Who gives a rats ass about "beauty pageants"?
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)I'm classy, talented and beautiful
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I always wondered why we had it. But, I think the same way about professional sports too. The pageants are more sexist/patriarchal in nature. Probably not a very good role model for young girls.
"Flyover Country" is an ify statement imo. Many very good people to be found there. We do not want to denigrate all of them over the numb headedness of a portion of them.
The young lady appears very attractive imo. Good for her in achieving something she worked so hard for.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Sure beats that young lady from SC a few years back.
cordelia
(2,174 posts)Ironic that your posts addresses bigotry and you use a term that many consider a pejorative.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I'm sure she is smart enough to ignore that stupidity.
It's sad to think that she couldn't win in India.
I don't get all of the complaining about 'flyover country'. I was born and raised in Chicago, and then lived in a small town in WI for 18 years. Taking offense kind of craps all over people that encounter prejudice (sometimes deadly) every day.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)are most Tweeted. It is what it is.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/05/geography_of_hate_maps_out_racism_on_twitter.html
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I'm not one of the people complaining about the 'flyover' comment. There are bigoted people everywhere.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)of interest in terms of the subject matter. Yes there are bigots everywhere, but not all places have the same legal protections for bigoted behavior nor the same level of cultural acceptance of that behavior.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I think we are on the same page here, just misunderstanding one another a bit.
Tanuki
(14,919 posts)Rima Fakih from Detroit. She unfortunately was also slimed by Gretchen
Carlson and others.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2010/05/why-some-are-outraged-by-arab-miss-usa/24426/
Romulox
(25,960 posts)spoken.
MH1
(17,600 posts)to win the title of Miss America??
(except it isn't funny, it's sad, but really ... teh stupid ...)
yeah, yeah, I know, different "Indian" of course, but still ...
DinahMoeHum
(21,801 posts)(Say that 5 times fast)
MineralMan
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Romulox
(25,960 posts)of bigot?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Romulox
(25,960 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)See, for some people those maps are a safety tool. People who are upset that their region is thought of as less liberal have a compliant that is several notches below those who are upset to be attacked by atavistic straights shouting slurs. 29 States allow legal discrimination against LGBT people, they also show up on maps.
People should make up their own minds if calling a State that allows discrimination against minorities less liberal than those who do not is really such a bad thing to say. Do some States have the right to discriminate with impunity so strong that to criticize or avoid that crap is in itself 'bigotry'? To reject homophobic cultures and laws is bigoted, but the laws themselves are not? It's just hard to follow the whole 'we get to make laws against you, but if you complain about that you are just a bigot' line of thinking. 'Let us abuse you or you are a bigot' just does not hold water well.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)What's more, your maps don't support your (implied) argument that "flyover country" is the epicenter of racism. NYC is blood red in the first map, for example.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)At least they allow us to find them easily. Morons should label themselves more often.
BumRushDaShow
(129,235 posts)(their minions are totally clueless) and hope it highlights how their RW hate radio mouthpieces have encouraged that crap.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)She's beautiful, smart and her response to the whole thing shows she's more dignified than her critics.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)....and looked to be of Asian descent, she described herself as Asian American. I would like to know more about her also. The runner-up is always completely overlooked in the last moments: they announce the fifth, fourth, third, 2nd runner ups, then a long pause to build up the drama for the top prize, who is announced, then the first runner-up just disappears, never to be seen again. I loved it that the two finalists were both from minority backgrounds. There have been one or two African American winners, haven't there?
What I hate, is the haters writing ugly things on the conservative blogs. I don't think most of these people would say these things in public. The internet allows the real feelings of people to be discerned, unfortunately. Disgusting.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)"with all do respect,this is America". Yep.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)gopiscrap
(23,762 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)background, or cup size.
(Strike that last one.)
Precisely
(358 posts)Precisely
(358 posts)Sexism not so much. But many beautiful cultures in the melting pot.
yesphan
(1,588 posts)her teeth are exceptionally white.
Otherwise, she is quite pulchritudinous.